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[livejournal.com profile] arralethe amd [livejournal.com profile] verlaine have added me as a pal, for reasons best known only to themselves.

In other news:
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen not as crap as expected shocker!

Yes, some weaknesses such as plot and ropey CGI, but some unexpected strengths, such as Stuart townsends Dorian Grey and Captain Nemo (what's this, Hollywood - getting a real Sikh to play a Sikh character? What happened to James Mason?)
However, the best stab at steampunk I've seen on screen and only the drab Mina harker really let it down on characterisation.

Yes, the plot is bobbins, but when did you last go and see a 'blockbuster' for plot? I didn't find that prior knowledge of the plot was that great a weakness - as it made the film plot harder to guess in a way (although it's still pretty linear).

As for Kill Bill, I'll reserve judgement on that until I've seen the other half.

Date: 2003-10-19 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerierhona.livejournal.com
you know who they are right?

Date: 2003-10-19 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verlaine.livejournal.com
I refer you to this post.

When [livejournal.com profile] lanfykins commands, I must obey!

Date: 2003-10-19 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
arralethe, yes, verlaine, not yet :)

Date: 2003-10-19 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Well, nice to have you on board :)

Date: 2003-10-19 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verlaine.livejournal.com
I'm enjoying the voyage so far, Captain. Full speed ahead and all that!

Date: 2003-10-19 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Yo ho ho. Does this make you the saucy cabin boy?

Date: 2003-10-20 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
I was going to put it on my own journal, but it fits better here.

Nemo: Lots of hilarious jokes about Finding Nemo. The Nautilus was absolutely HUGE - far too big for "East London Docks", or Venice. Plus, "Call me Ishmael." Now, that would have worked if they gave him a Nantucket accent, but oh-no, it was another bloody cockney.

Quartermain: "I'm a quintessential Englishman, y'know, och aye." Bond was half Scottish, so I can forgive that, but Quartermain was a damn Englishman. Also, in KSM he wasn't the big fighting hero, that was Lord Henry - Quartermain was more the bard and poet of the medieval group.

Gray: "If I ever see my portrait I'll die." Sorry? *Flicks through his Wilde* Nope, can't see that bit at all. Just effete enough without appearing "cut of a different cloth," although wasn't the point of the novel that after causing a young lady to kill herself Gray killed himself by stabbing the painting? Oh, and it was life size.

Sawyer: This is a brand new invention of mine - I call it the "Automobile." And yet Sawyer seemed to have a pretty damn good hang of it when driving through the streets of Venice.

Skinner: Scottish Cockney aside, he wasn't that bad. I mean, he wasn't Harley from the comic, but perhaps one of the best working characters. Oh, except for his shiny, modern, Matrix-like Duster, which he still wore in Africa at the end.

Jekyll/Hyde: Really nice bit when he was watching Gray and the Vamp tussling, but the whole point about Hyde was that he was man's selfish impulses made flesh. That being the case, when the Nautilus sprang a leak, the last thing he would have done would be dive underwater to save men's lives. I mean, he's a murdering rapist, for god's sakes.

M: Without giving too much away, ANOTHER BLOODY COCKNEY!

I did like the opening, with the tank. Made me wonder why no-one tried it for real.

The ending, though.

A snowy wasteland, blowing up a big building; a main character dies to save the others; sound familiar? I think I hear Brian Singer scribbling to his lawyers.

Oh, and the font for the opening credits, disappointed that they were so prosaic, and not Penny-dreadful script.

Date: 2003-10-20 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
Forgot Mina, who got sluttier as the film went on, ending up with a dress too low-cut for a white woman in Africa.

Date: 2003-10-20 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arralethe.livejournal.com
lol Rhona, he guessed before you!

Date: 2003-10-20 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rms.livejournal.com
Skinners coat was equally Gestapo as it was Matrix. Indiana Jones was barey beating them off from Archeaologiacl treasues barely 40 years later. And its nots as if he was probably wearing anything under it in Africa. Not sure why they repalced Horely Griffiths though apart from in the comic he's really not very nice at all...must devlop invisiblitiy serum...

Jekyll\Hyde were equally increasing they're own chances of survival by ensuring the Nautilus didn't sink. Possibly not an entirely selfish act.

The Nautilus was indeed huge, but very pretty.

Date: 2003-10-20 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
But if they'd battened down the hatches it still would have survived until they got into a Very Big drydock. Even Nemo accepted that would save them.

As for the coat thing; 40 years is a long time in fashion - by that same token it wouldn't make you bat an eye to see someone in the 1970's wearing a puffy coat or flared trous - okay, bad example.

Date: 2003-10-20 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
Oh, and consensus has it that Verne didn't intend Nemo to be Indian until the second Nemo book; Mysterious Island.

Date: 2003-10-20 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevecat.livejournal.com
*giggles*

OK, Matt as a saucy cabin boy...that's just an odd image!

If you two *did* already know each other, the world would be entirely too small. That said, I reckon the two of you could well be prodded, with very little encouragement, into nefarious plotting over cards & red wine :)

Date: 2003-10-20 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rms.livejournal.com
Yes, but Hyde seemed to be and seemed to know that he'd be at no risk from diving into the flooded engine room and by doing this he was more likely to survive, the fact he saved a few men is entirely coincidental. I'd also not want to be limping around on the surface in a known pirate vessel on the brink of a world war trying to get back to Nemo's dry dock, since as a pirate he's probably not welcome in that many other than his own.

As for the coat thing, all I was pointing out was it was ony possibly 40 years out of date rather than the hundred you implied, could be less given Hitler's rise to power in the early 30's. And what would you expect a turn of the century trenchcoat to have been made of Nylon not invented for 30 years, polyester for 50 and Goretex for 70, it might have been more plausible in brown leather, but the big leather trenchcoat definately the way to keep warm and dry at the turn of the century
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