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davywavy ([personal profile] davywavy) wrote2006-01-10 03:44 pm

More on this

Amongst the comments to my earlier post, several people have raised questions about the definitions of poverty and their validity; especially that covered by Oxfam, which defines poverty as less than 60 of the national median disposable income.

According to the national office of statistics, after rent, bills and necessities are paid, this figure is £194 per week per household. If you're living on less than that, Oxfam says you're living in poverty; they don't appear to differentiate between households of people living alone and households with a dozen squalling children crammed into the front room because, as we all know, there's no difference in living costs between the two.

(Anonymous) 2006-01-10 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's us, David! We're officially poor! Right-ho, here goes

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[identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com 2006-01-10 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I'm about 150 quid over the poverty line (calculated monthly) and my rent is relatively cheap. I need to show this to my employer...

[identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com 2006-01-10 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It is quite likely that Oxfam may have a silly method for overall defining poverty, but it in no ways reduces the importance of the work they do.

[identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com 2006-01-10 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
How is "Disposable Income" defined?

[identity profile] the-maenad.livejournal.com 2006-01-10 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
One recalls a quote from George Orwell's "The Road to Wigan Pier". George asked some oppressed miner when the area he lived in had become so poverty-stricken, and the miner replied "When we were told about it" -- meaning that until people like Orwell started coming to town and poking about, the miners had all simply assumed that their poverty was the natural order of things rather than a state they could aspire to escape from.

[identity profile] gwaunquest.livejournal.com 2006-01-11 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
There is a phrase (which I coined myself) that I apply to all situations such as this.
The truth is like a mirror - what you see depends on where you stand.

[identity profile] souldier-blue.livejournal.com 2006-01-11 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, bit lost... my other half doesn't even earn £194 a week.