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I'm astonished to read in the Guardian that 75% of credit card fraud is committed by criminals.

I can only assume the rest is carried out by law abiding citizens.

Date: 2006-11-02 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com
... or banks? Or other forms of entity which aren't a single criminal?

The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-02 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
What the yellow middle class hacks at the Guardian actually mean is 75% are perpetrated by white people who come from nice areas, which makes them dirty criminals. The other 25% are poor minorities from oppressive countries who only perpetrate crimes as a symptom of social injustice.

Also: NATIONAL INSURANCE CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE GONE UP.

God damn it.

Date: 2006-11-02 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-of-flame.livejournal.com
I'd guess they mean 75% is done as part of 'organised' crime, as opposed to being done on the fly by opportunists (amateur crims ;) ?

That's fairly believable, IMO.

The other option I can think of - that 25% is actually due to sheer incompetance & ineptitude: i.e. incorrect cards being charged due to numbers getting jumbled, etc - is worrying...

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-02 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
In all fairness, that's actually a quote from an Identity Fraud 'expert.' Obviously where people go when they're too stupid to get into the US army.

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-02 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Where they are quoted without comment by their intellectual peers in the Guardian.

Date: 2006-11-02 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
oops that quote is from the head of the company a couple of my mates just started work for XD

Date: 2006-11-02 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Are they in any way responsible for statistical accuracy or writing press releases?

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-02 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
i think the guy (who is my mate's boss) is a. not used to talking to media and b. is a computer nerd. he runs a company that exists to find out what is "known" about you, and then tell you who knows it, how easy it is for "anyone" to find out, and what the information is used for. dunno tho, i'll ask them when they get back from work! i suspect they'll just cringe tho!

Date: 2006-11-02 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
i dunno but i have a feeling they may mock him mercilessly now! hehe. of course it is possible that the quote is a partial one, making it look dafter than it was, you know, like edited =)

Date: 2006-11-02 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
(which that post should have been for grammatical errors!) gah.

there is a full stop after "was"

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-02 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
Oh, left of centre I might be, but I'm not an apologist. Especially after this piece of drivel.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/julie_bindel/2006/11/why_i_hate_men.html

Date: 2006-11-02 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiromasaki.livejournal.com
it is possible that the quote is a partial one, making it look dafter than it was

We in the US know exactly what you mean. And we get to hear it over and over and over and over.

The bad part is it wasn't an edited quote, it was a pre-written one that was misspoken.

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-02 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Wow - and people say the Telegraph is right-wing.

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-03 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colin-boyle.livejournal.com
If you look at the actual article, it says nothing like what your comment states. I can only assumed you didn't bother to actually read the source material before blurting out your response. But you at least made your prejudices very clear.

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-26 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've read the article and don't get what you mean. Seems to me that Davids observation was astute & to the point. Also, regarding his 'prejudice' - it's not 'prejudice' to think someone is a bit daft after they've done something, well, a bit daft. It's judgement.

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-27 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
To be fair to Colin he wasn't referring to my original post, but Vulgarcrinimals reply in what I assumed was a satirical sort of way.
I thought that someone mocking the political illiteracy and prejudices of the Guardian being mocked for their prejudices in return was satire? Or did I misread things?

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-28 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Are you sure? contextually, his response was more intelligible if taken as a riposte to the original post. Just.

Re: The other 25%

Date: 2006-11-29 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I dunno - I know Colin and I think he's got enough of a sense of humour to be able to laugh at satire and play along.
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