Body Modification
Oct. 5th, 2009 10:21 amBack when I was a student I used to frequent a nightclub called the Banshee. it was a wretched hive of scum and villainy, whose legend was only enhanced when the building which housed it collapsed one night about two weeks after it was closed down as being unfit for human habitation.
The clientele was the predictable assortment of punks, goths, recidivists, reprobates, ne'er-do-wells and second-year engineering students. I used to go there to dance around in my flailing way and to try and meet girls.
One night I noticed a remarkably pretty punk girl wearing ripped fishnets. Nothing unusual in that you might think, but as I checked her out I realised something. She wasn't wearing ripped fishnets - they were tattooed directly onto her legs. Being an impressionable 19 year old at the time, my immediate reaction was Wow, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen!. However, then the bit of my brain which actually does the thinking took over and my opinion changed.
She's really going to regret that in ten years, I thought.
That pretty much sums up why I never got a tattoo. They've grown increasingly fashionable as the years have gone by, but I've always been put off by the permanence. There's bound to come a day when I'd look in the mirror and wish I hadn't had a dotted line with "cut here" inked onto my neck, no matter how attractive a thought it might be right now. The problem isn't just the permanence; it's the fact that fashion changes, and getting a tattoo is like being required to wear the same piece of clothing every day no matter how dated it might look. I mean, I do very much like my Oakleys, but there are limits. Following tattoo fashion is a quick way of permanently dating yourself to the moment you wanted to be at your most funky.
Got a swallow tattooed on your hand? You were in the navy before 1985. Got one of those big, pointy, swirly polynesian tattoos down your arm? You were doubtless the coolest person in Aiya Napa in 1997. Got an ornate yakuza-style sleeve? Your best ever year was 2005. Moreover, with the inexorable march of time those Yakuza sleeves are just going to start looking like you haven't ironed your shirt.
So, question of the day; if you've got a tattoo, what is it, why'd you get it and have you regetted it since? And if you haven't, any particular reason why not?
The clientele was the predictable assortment of punks, goths, recidivists, reprobates, ne'er-do-wells and second-year engineering students. I used to go there to dance around in my flailing way and to try and meet girls.
One night I noticed a remarkably pretty punk girl wearing ripped fishnets. Nothing unusual in that you might think, but as I checked her out I realised something. She wasn't wearing ripped fishnets - they were tattooed directly onto her legs. Being an impressionable 19 year old at the time, my immediate reaction was Wow, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen!. However, then the bit of my brain which actually does the thinking took over and my opinion changed.
She's really going to regret that in ten years, I thought.
That pretty much sums up why I never got a tattoo. They've grown increasingly fashionable as the years have gone by, but I've always been put off by the permanence. There's bound to come a day when I'd look in the mirror and wish I hadn't had a dotted line with "cut here" inked onto my neck, no matter how attractive a thought it might be right now. The problem isn't just the permanence; it's the fact that fashion changes, and getting a tattoo is like being required to wear the same piece of clothing every day no matter how dated it might look. I mean, I do very much like my Oakleys, but there are limits. Following tattoo fashion is a quick way of permanently dating yourself to the moment you wanted to be at your most funky.
Got a swallow tattooed on your hand? You were in the navy before 1985. Got one of those big, pointy, swirly polynesian tattoos down your arm? You were doubtless the coolest person in Aiya Napa in 1997. Got an ornate yakuza-style sleeve? Your best ever year was 2005. Moreover, with the inexorable march of time those Yakuza sleeves are just going to start looking like you haven't ironed your shirt.
So, question of the day; if you've got a tattoo, what is it, why'd you get it and have you regetted it since? And if you haven't, any particular reason why not?
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Date: 2009-10-05 09:54 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-10-05 10:02 am (UTC)My tattoo is of a Viking longship. It's on the outside, top of my right leg. I got it in '06, and so far I haven't regretted it. I wanted a tattoo for years, but I was worried about the permanence. So I told myself that I'd only get a tattoo if I really wanted a specific design for over a year. In '05 I decided that Viking ships were lovely and started collecting pictures of them and recommendations for tattoo artists. In '06 my mom died, I changed jobs, and I made plans to move. I liked the idea of the ship even more, as it seemed symbolic of something that could go through changes with flexibility and grace.
The location means that the skin around the tattoo won't change much with time and weight fluctuation. I can show it off in swimsuits, but it's covered in work situations (although tats are apparently really common in my office).
I'm very happy with it, and I don't foresee that changing.
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Date: 2009-10-05 10:15 am (UTC)I'd never been remotely interested in tattoos before, but it seemed a good way to commemorate the visit and I haven't regretted it even slightly. I'll go back one day.
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Date: 2009-10-05 10:16 am (UTC)If I do it will be large, but invisible under normal conditions (i.e. not on my face, arm, ankle, or anywhere else that pokes out of clothing.
I can't help feeling that most of the scars will be internal though!
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Date: 2009-10-05 10:23 am (UTC)There's very little body modification that appeals to me.
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Date: 2009-10-05 10:24 am (UTC)The back one I love too, but it needs a bit of touching up to revive some of the colours. It was designed for me by Chris Achilleos as payment for some modelling I did for him in the early 90s. I actually want to expand on it and have a full back piece done. I'll get around to it eventually...
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Date: 2009-10-05 10:44 am (UTC)niether of them is what I would call a fashion tattoo and I don't regret them.
My reason is that to me they have a spritual meaning.
Cheers
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Date: 2009-10-05 11:11 am (UTC)Bit of a bugger on ID parades though.
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Date: 2009-10-05 11:18 am (UTC)Having thought about it for ages, I finally got it done on a whim just before my 21st birthday. Never regretted it, although it hurt like buggery so I'm a little hesitant about having more.
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Date: 2009-10-05 11:36 am (UTC)That sounds like a heck of a gym kit to me...
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Date: 2009-10-05 12:10 pm (UTC)I've spent a lot of time in tattoo parlours, and there is a definate divide between those that want it as a statement (the "what can I get for 20 quid" crowd) and those who choose it as part of a lifestyle, to define their "tribe" or for spiritual reasons.
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Date: 2009-10-05 12:37 pm (UTC)With a shiv, the whole day through
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With a full face tattoo.
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Date: 2009-10-05 02:16 pm (UTC)One, which I got back in October 2002, is of a theatrical mask on my left shoulderblade, half happy and half sad. I got it because I'd been thinking about that design and location for a long time and then had a bit of a "crystallising experience" that made me decide that, yes, I did want to get that done. I've never once regretted it.
The other, which I got back in December 2006, is of a "tribal dove" on my left forearm. It is also the symbol of the band Thursday, who have been my favourite band since early 2002. I got it because, again, I'd been thinking about getting it for a couple of years and had a "crystallising experience." I went to get it done the next day, and again have never once regretted it.
I agree that getting "cool" or contemporary tattoos is probably unwise -- in particular, getting a tattoo by looking through designs and choosing something you like seems a bit daft. My tattoos have specific meaning and stories attached to them and I enjoy their permanence for that reason -- they serve as reminders of particular times.
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Date: 2009-10-05 07:15 pm (UTC)PS Are you thinking of running for EU president? I'd vote for you ahead of Blair. (Admittedly, you are being damned with faint praise here.)
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Ever after, I've been struck with the question, "yeah that's cool, but how will that look with wrinkles at 70?"*
*of course missing the point that if I skullfucked a Jap on Iwo Jima with his own chopsticks and I was still alive at 70, I couldn't care what people thought of my physique or wrinkled ink.
THanks to the magic of Reverso
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PS, I thought it was another "Muscovite Messalina", and I bet you did, too.
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Date: 2009-10-06 08:42 am (UTC)Weirdly, Reverso doesn't seem to have the capacity to translate "blogov" from the Russian, but it's kind of self-explanatory.
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Date: 2009-10-07 06:43 pm (UTC)I have a tiny cat (about 1" in diameter) tattooed on the top of the inside of my right thigh. It has it's tail up and back arched. I had it done for 2 reasons in the end: 1) because I'd wanted it for a long time and 2) I worked in a titty bar where full nudity wasn't allowed - so when guy's asked to see my pussy I could show them without losing my job. Got me more than enough tips to pay for the tattoo 5 times over.
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Date: 2009-10-07 06:49 pm (UTC)Or at least mine did anyway.
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Date: 2009-10-14 07:56 am (UTC)When my eldest daughter wanted her ears pierced I worried. Mostly I worried if it would hurt. I had mine done first and as it wasn't too bad, let her have hers done.
Several years later she wanted a tatoo. I went through all the same arguments you have mentioned but she was insistant. So I reasoned, if I had one first she would know at least, if it was going to be too painful, and be able to pull out. This we agreed. Next was what to have. I thought, if I'm going to be saddled with a mark for the rest of my days it's got to stand the test of time.I eventually decided on the Wajet eye or Eye of Horus, in blue on my right shoulder. There is a long explanation for this which I will give you sometime if you are interested but superficially I can say it's lasted for several thousand years and as a design is almost ageless. Both my daughters and I have the same tatoo in the same place for the same reasons. They have other small ones with personal meaning but I'm happy to stop at this one.