Scared yet?

Sep. 2nd, 2010 10:13 am
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Back in 1999, I'd just started a new job and it was a good one. Not only was I getting paid twice what I'd got in my old job, but for the first time in my career I had an internet linked comuter on my desk and my own office with a door that shut. Needless to say, I used this combination to spend hours every day looking at picture of ladies in their underwear work hard to increase shareholder value*.
A few weeks into the job we had a computer consultant come in to prepare us for the Y2K bug. I don't know if many people even remember Y2K these days, but it was quite a big deal at the time. Basically, as I recall it was alleged that as computers couldn't count beyond 1999, as the year 2000 ticked over on their internal clocks a giant space insect would knock the earth out of orbit and into the sun. Needless to say this worried a lot of people and huge, huge sums of money were spent combatting it. As an example, so desperate were companies for decent IT staff to cover their backs that in 1999, the UK edition of Computing magazine was taking over £500,000 in recruitment advertising revenue every week, and that was just a drop in the ocean. Globally, hundreds of millions - billions - were spent.
Anyway, the computer consultant spent a few days in our office generally acting like a plumber dealing with people who don't know how their boiler works. He drank lots of cups of tea, made that whistling noise between his teeth to show there's a real problem, and charged by the hour. I got chatting to him once and asked him how much he was getting paid, and he refused to tell me but he did say that it was only a four-figure sum as he knew the MD. "I'm doing this work for him cheap", he said. "He's a mate".

At the end of all this, the Y2K bug was a damp squib. Global computing didn't seize up and the earth didn't topple out of orbit. All that happened was the IT Consulting industry enjoyed an absolute bonanza.

I was thinking the other day about how these crises appear, get vast sums spent on them, and then just seem to fizzle out. After Y2K there was SARS, which the World Health Organisation predicted would kill a hundred and fifty million people. What actually happened was that it killed 779 people and Flu vaccine manufacturers made out like bandits. After Sars we had Swine Flu, which the WHO said would kill a hundred and fifty million people (there's that number again) unless we gave GlaxoSmithKline a huge pile of gold. Fortunately GSK got their huge pile of gold and disaster was averted.
Remember Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis? Back in the 1980's anyone who'd ever eaten beef was going to be dead by now with our brains all mushy. As it turned out Twitter turned our brains to mush but we're still alive. Salmonella in eggs? Nobody died, there was never any actual evidence presented that eggs contained Salmonella, but 5 million chickens in the UK were killed in a windfall for the chicken-killing industry. Foot and Mouth? A minor outbreak became a scare, hundreds of thousands of perfectly healthy animals were killed and burned, and abbatoir owners all bought rather nice new cars.

The cynic in me might go so far as to suggest that scares are a great way of stimulating economic activity and getting money moving around. The War on Terror, for example, which largely comprised of us Westerners killing many thousands and completing the military subjugation of two nations in a little under a fortnight and the Terrorists response, which was to effectively make Londoners late for work one morning and then make a Glaswegian cross enough to get stuck into man who was on fire. But by crikey, fear doesn't half sell, doesn't it? Remember Anthrax through the post? Websites selling anthrax masks and testing kits sprang up within minutes and fast bucks were made.

But let us leave such cynicism aside for a moment. You see, I'm not sure if you've heard but the icecaps are melting and our civilisation is going to collapse and we're all going to drown. Fortunately I've got some lifeboats for sale!

I'll do them for you cheap. You're a mate.

*Actually, my abiding memory of working in the year 2000 is spending for too much time nattering to [livejournal.com profile] godzuki and [livejournal.com profile] kikayume over email.
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Date: 2010-09-02 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
That's the thing about risks, though. They're risks: they may or may not happen. After-the-fact knowledge that they didn't happen doesn't make during-the-fact preventative measures a bad decision.

Date: 2010-09-02 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
You're absolutely right. Shall I put you down for two boats? I take paypal.

Date: 2010-09-02 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Of course I'm absolutely right, but why should I want the boats?

Date: 2010-09-02 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
You'll need them to save your family from drowning! It's for The Children tm who are Our Futuretm, which surely justifies any expenditure?

10% off to you.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Would you like an actual discussion about the assessment of global catastrophic risk, or are you content with milking the notion that it's all opportunistic bunk for a few cheap and skinny laughs?

I'm happy either way.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I'm resigned to the conclusion that my opinions regarding global risks are a) meaningless and b) ineffectual. Just because I have a demonstrable record of a high degree of predictive accuracy when it counts doesn't mean that anyone will take any notice.

As such I'll have a laugh and if there's a fast buck to be made as well, I'm fine with that.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I think you're being a bit selective in your appraisal of past performance. I distinctly recall you claiming in early 2003 that the Iraq war wouldn't happen.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
If I might politely disagree, I predicted there wouldn't be a war in 2002 - and made a bet on that which I won, as well - and then followed this up with a prediction that war wouldn't start in the first quarter of 2003. I was 11 days out on the second prediction. Pretty good, though I say so myself.

You may see the post here: http://davywavy.livejournal.com/48908.html

Date: 2010-09-02 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
You should give Prediction Book a go. See precisely how well you're calibrated.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Bugger.

Being fat-fingered idiot, I just deleted a lengthy thread on that post in which I said I didn't think there'd be a war at all, but I wasn't betting on it.

I thought it best to fess up to that.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
In fact, there is little point in purchasing one of your boats, as after the ice-caps melt, the most pressing danger will be from water-borne infections. I suggest that you invest in a 3year supply of my 'Ill-be-gone' water treatment kits, without which you will be left paralysed and vomiting up your own spine. By now, or prepare to die in unspeakable agony!!!

By 3 years supply and get the 4th year free!

Date: 2010-09-02 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Sounds like a bargain. Ship me two! Fast!

Date: 2010-09-02 10:47 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As I was getting daily phonecalls from headhunters wanting engineers with experience of sand filtration for highly rated engines, for a job which 'absolutely must be done' by March '03 latest you could've asked me.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
There's a similar page which asks you to assess risk and then marks you on it, isn't there? I know I've done something similar - it told me that I overestimated risk and was overly cautious, or words to that effect.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I've looked at carbon trading but the margins don't seem worth it at the moment. For some reason it doesn't seem to be taking off, possibly because the Chinese and Indians don't give two beans about it.

Date: 2010-09-02 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I don't know the one you're referring to, but this one's an ongoing assessment of the accuracy of your confidence in your predictions. You can make the predictions yourself, any predictions, and assign them a confidence interval.

Ideally your 10% confidence predictions should come to pass 10% of the time, your 20% predictions 20% of the time, and so on. It measures how much the frequency of the predictions deviate from your confidence in them.

I'm not sure how much this will appeal to the non-statistician.

Date: 2010-09-02 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
It appeals, but I'm not sure what I'm predicting at the moment. However, I'll give it a go when something comes to mind.

The only precictions I'm making at the moment are financial ones and I'm already betting money on those so I hope I'm fairly well informed on the odds from multiple sources.

Date: 2010-09-02 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
Of course! As a valued customer we are also offering you our Bad Science!(tm) approved 21st century amorphous polymer preservation skins. Each Preservation skin can be sealed hermetically sealed by simple application of finger pressure to ensure your Ill-be-gone treatement kit does not become contaminated by the toxins present in the polar ice caps.

Because of your customer loyalty you can recieve a 10% discount on the usual price of £20 for 10! Preservation skins can also be used to hold your child's precious belongings, preventing the growth of the flesh-eating bacteria that military scientists say will be released by Atlantian Terrorists seeking to reclaim the world.

Date: 2010-09-02 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janewilliams20.livejournal.com
Not sure serious comment is appropriate, but FWIW, I know how much code I fixed - not just checked, but fixed - that would have gone wrong due to the Y2K bug had we not done the work. It wasn't huge, but it would have mattered.
Of course, the number of hours I worked at triple time over that weekend was rather nice, too. Testing, to be sure we'd caught everything, and fixing the few bits we hadn't (one bit of intranet would have fallen over in Netscape).

Date: 2010-09-02 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Scientists say it? Cripes it must be true. I'll send you over my credit card number and you can just take as much as you like, okay?

Date: 2010-09-02 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Thought of one. I'm 75% certain that Barack Obama will be a one-term president. Plugged in and good to go!

Date: 2010-09-02 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Like you say - it wasn't huge.
My point really is that potential disasters consistently get blown out of all proportion - by the press looking to trump their competition, mainly - and a lot of money is made by people capitalising on that. The process isn't helped by politicians under pressure from the media to look like they're doing something, even when not all that much really needs to be done.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
So if you're well-calibrated, if you make three other 75% confidence predictions, one of them should be wrong.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Yeah, the thing is I only make concrete predictions when I'm really confident I'm right, and that's rare. 75% is a bit low for me.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
Not a problem, I've got some diamonds I need to transfer out of Zimbabwe at the same time, so I'll wire you some cash for that too
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