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The scene was the bathroom of my house the year after I graduated. As I was primping and preening myself in front of the mirror for an evening of childish debauchery (“Which do you think? The black or the blue lippy?”), my housemate wandered in and gave me the benefit of his opinions regarding women he’d never meet and never have.
What really sticks in my memory is the tone of bitterness he said it in; the angry dismissal as worthless of something that he undoubtedly wanted but could never have. I think it’s human nature to dismiss as pointless things they want but can’t have. It’s cognitive dissonance: I want it but can’t have it, therefore I don’t want it really. In fact I hate it. So ner.
This memory was brought back to me by a conversation I had last night. I think that most men have fantasies about goth-chicks at some level, and the vast majority will never get to indulge. A friend of mine who works in the city says a lot of his besuited associates certainly do, and I once considered setting up a City/Goth dating agency, introducing Goths of my acquaintance to wealthy city men who’d otherwise never get the chance to meet the object of their fantasies outside of fantasy and lapdance clubs - the odd juxtaposition of my social circles serving to my advantage for once.
This serves only to reinforce my theory: ordinary men fantasise about Goths, and now I’m in the position of being a jet-setting global business magnate, I can see a way to turn this to my advantage and make a tidy bundle of loot at the same time. Yes, I’m talking about Porn.
Richard Desmond has gone from being a smut peddler to a respectable man of media, and it seems to me that there’s really no reason I can’t do likewise. Purveying quality one-handed literature to single gentlemen of discernment.
Of course, first I have to think of a winning title: ’Readers Stoves’? No, perhaps not. ’Roleplaying Ravers’? Definitely Not.
Goth Babes.
It has a ring to it, I think.
“Beautiful creatures of the night shown as nature intended.”
“Morticia, 21, likes the colour black and cats. She says her ambition is to meet a fat, bald fortysomething man with a combover and be his sex slave.”
We* could fill the magazine with pictoral depictions of Goths in the altogether, padded out (the magazine, not the goths) with articles (“The Corset throughout history”, and “Black No.1 – the thinking girl's dye?”), and advertisements for Goth-related sex toys, like vibrating Ankhs, your own inflatable Goth (“Do not exceed 250psi. Not to be used as a life preserver”), and battery powered Cthulhu dolls (“He'll get a grip on more than your soul. Now with extra tentacle action!”).
Bearing in mind the above-mentioned goth fantasies, I can’t see this one failing**. Fame and fortune are assured me.
So. Who wants to volunteer to be my first centrefold? We're off to the big time, baby.

* Do you like the way I slipped the word ‘We’ in there? See? Now I’ve involved you in this sordid little fantasy. Don’t you feel faintly soiled?

**To complete the Goth-porn juxtaposition, I shall have to grow a bushy moustache and then put flourescent extensions into it.

Date: 2004-05-05 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
Sounds like a good proposition, though not sure how much of a market for paper-porn there really is these days...

Date: 2004-05-05 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Perhaps pay-per porn then.

I wonder if Gothbabes.com has gone?

Date: 2004-05-05 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
pay-per-porn or DVD are probably your biggest cash-cows...

Date: 2004-05-05 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I hope nobody tells my girlfriend about this...

Date: 2004-05-05 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
I'm sure they won't...really...

Date: 2004-05-05 04:35 am (UTC)
reddragdiva: (pr3v3rt)
From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
Some hold that this has already happened. They claim their market is other goths. Of course it is, dear.

Date: 2004-05-05 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Yeah, thinking of original porn is bloody hard as I'm sure you recall.

However, I was giggling about this idea on the train earlier and just had to share. :)

Date: 2004-05-05 04:38 am (UTC)
reddragdiva: (Default)
From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
The magazine is hardly known, and certainly not to your intended audience. There's a lot of money in being a porn baron.

OTOH, if you thought the typical goth was a study in the contrast between looks and intelligence ...

Date: 2004-05-05 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arralethe.livejournal.com
I shall have to grow a bushy moustache and then put flourescent extensions into it.

Hmmm, now that is possibly a more original pr0n idea. And I'd pay all of 50p to see it, I reckon!

Date: 2004-05-05 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arralethe.livejournal.com
That too. Although I wuldn't want anyone taking a pic of me paying my fiddy pee to see Davywavy's much coiffed bushy tache.

Date: 2004-05-05 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
"ooh, 'eck, they've got all tangled in me piercings..."

Date: 2004-05-05 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arralethe.livejournal.com
Or, taking it to even stranger territory, BDSM and bondage with said taches.

Date: 2004-05-05 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I did seroiusly consider growing a cyber-goatee at one point in my old job, as part of my ongong campaign to see just how seriously I could irritate my boss before he fired me.

Date: 2004-05-05 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arralethe.livejournal.com
Knowing you, I'm not sure that would count as sadism or masochism - probably both.

Evil Overlord Rule # 35

Date: 2004-05-05 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
"I will not grow a goatee. In the old days they made you look diabolic. Now they just make you look like a disaffected member of Generation X."

http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html

Date: 2004-05-05 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenmeisterin.livejournal.com
The Goth dating/escort agency for non-goths is an idea that several people on the scene have seriously considered for the reasons' you've put above. In particular one of [livejournal.com profile] faerierhona's friends has been umming and ahhing about it.

I'd say it was a top idea :-)

Date: 2004-05-05 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Seriously?

It's always been a joke idea for me.

I have contacts and everything.

the problem i see

Date: 2004-05-05 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fire-kitten.livejournal.com
with this idea is that surely one mostly nude model looks a lot like another. I thought one of the main distinguishing feature of goths was the clothing...

so unless you are going to do a lot of poses around graveyards, crypts and the like you could end up with run of the mill smut, and nothing distinctly 'goth babe'......

You cout also try "Rampant RPG Girls, in to all sorts of hot fantasy action....." - as TLA's always sell :-)

Re: the problem i see

Date: 2004-05-05 05:45 am (UTC)
reddragdiva: (Default)
From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
It's all in the accessories. The question is whether the model in question sets off one's gothdar.

It's like goth fashion parades: you can tell instantly which models are actually goths and which ones haven't a clue about it just by how they carry themselves and the clothes.

Fashion shows

Date: 2004-05-05 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Yeah, the goths have this look about them that is a mixture of miserable, haughty, and arrogant, whilst the models - Oh, hang on.

Re: Fashion shows

Date: 2004-05-05 06:03 am (UTC)
reddragdiva: (Default)
From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
... look the same except really, really uncomfortable with being there.

Date: 2004-05-05 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kikayume.livejournal.com
Hehehe. Hehehe. Heehee.

This is much too true for comfort.

Yo Pimp-Daddy Dave!

Date: 2004-05-05 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Be sho' yo change yo name to 'Dirt Daddy Dave' nah, ya'hear?

Date: 2004-05-05 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesquipedality.livejournal.com
You could have a "Not a Goth of the Month" centrefold.

Date: 2004-05-05 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
What...as in James "I'm not a Goth" Desborough?

I know that you claim there's nothing that somebody out there find sexually attractive, but I think that we've found the execpetion that proves the rule right there.

Date: 2004-05-05 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
Tell me more about this list of contacts... I'd do April, as it were.

A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-05 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
..if you can guess why I chose April.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-06 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Because it was last month...and as you don't expect the magazine to last for a full 12 months it means the likelihood is that you'd never actually have to put out.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-07 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Because your birthday is in April, thus resulting in your truly wearing your birthday suit.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-08 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
A clue: You need to be literary rather than literal... if you can be arsed

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-08 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Due to it being the cruelest month, thus reflecting your inner evil?

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-09 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
Correct, eventually. I am shortly going to post a list of books and CDs I am flogging. You can select one as your prize if you like - this surely reflects my inner stinginess...

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-09 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Gosh, me? Worthy of your cast-offs? I'm flattered beyond compare.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-09 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
Alright. If you don't like any of my cast of novels I will buy you the Penguin Classics edition of Plato's Symposium. A little classical education might civilise you...

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-10 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Do you know, by a remarkable coincidence, guess what's in my bag at this very moment, a bookmark in the middle of Aristophanes' speech in praise of love?

I've also been writing some Iambic Pentameter, which I may post if I feel confident of a lack of mockery from various corners - not least yours.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-10 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
Touche. Or even Threeche. Go on post it, post it. You know you want to. As much as you want mockery, or need it at least for its character-building qualities.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-10 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Whilst I don't mind mockery on most occasions, as I've never tried writing peotry before it wouldn't be welcomed on this one.

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-10 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
I assumed you meant pastiche or kind of slash poetry. If you are writing something more serious then I would not mock. Well maybe a bit, but nicely. Can I offer constructive criticsm - it'd be hard not to go into creative writing teacher mode...

Re: A prize for you...

Date: 2004-05-10 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Oh, pastiche poetry is quite different - very easy and fun. Actually writing it proper like is strangely challengning. I'll try and get more of it done tonight as I'm going to be skiving the gym.

Date: 2004-05-07 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerierhona.livejournal.com
sorry hun.. I already have a contract *grin*. I also, incidentally, know raher a large number of beautiful goth girls who'd love to do something like that

Date: 2004-05-07 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Oh, you would

Introduce me to them, would you?
Preferably when Jenny isn't there.

Date: 2004-05-08 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerierhona.livejournal.com
*laughs* if you're serious then yes, I will find you some models

Date: 2004-05-08 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I wasn'tthinking of modelling per se as the reason i'd want to mee them ;)

Date: 2004-05-08 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerierhona.livejournal.com
actually, scrpa that. So you know some rich bored businessmen who like goths? Set up a fucking date for me with one of them!

Date: 2004-05-10 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I'll ask Anthony when I see him next if he has any chums...

Date: 2004-05-10 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerierhona.livejournal.com
kewl. Obviously, they have to have extraordinarily big wallets
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