Elitism only has a bad reputation amongst those who do not have either the wherewithal and/or the ambition to join said elite.
My reply was that that may be true however the people who want to be elite arn't going to think it's a bad thing and the people who don't probably don't want to for a reason, and it's probably not going to be because they think it's a super cool thing.
Saying that ANYTHING is only viewd as negitive by those who want to have nothing to do with it is, in my opinion, a pretty obvious thing to say, and that is how I read the above statement, so not really much to discuss.
My first comment was, to me at least, pretty much the same thing as yours. However, if you want to discuss the nature of Elitism and get into another dance of the red death discussion with J. then I don't think the original statement has a lot of relevence, perhaps something along the lines of 'Elitism is part of the natural order of things and is infact a benfit, rather than a detrement to sociaty.' might be what I was supposed to read.
Sorry if I read it wrong, I'm not at all leet I'm affraid. :)
Okay, yes, I'll accept that. Or I should ahve removed the word 'ambition' from the initial phrase, as it is often those who aspire to the elite but simply don't have 'it' who'd most like to get rid of any elite. Tall poppy syndrome. Sound fair?
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Date: 2004-08-13 07:34 am (UTC)My reply was that that may be true however the people who want to be elite arn't going to think it's a bad thing and the people who don't probably don't want to for a reason, and it's probably not going to be because they think it's a super cool thing.
Saying that ANYTHING is only viewd as negitive by those who want to have nothing to do with it is, in my opinion, a pretty obvious thing to say, and that is how I read the above statement, so not really much to discuss.
My first comment was, to me at least, pretty much the same thing as yours. However, if you want to discuss the nature of Elitism and get into another dance of the red death discussion with J. then I don't think the original statement has a lot of relevence, perhaps something along the lines of 'Elitism is part of the natural order of things and is infact a benfit, rather than a detrement to sociaty.' might be what I was supposed to read.
Sorry if I read it wrong, I'm not at all leet I'm affraid. :)
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Date: 2004-08-13 07:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-13 08:48 am (UTC)