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At the end of the street on which I live, there is a wall which comes to about chest height on me. A cat sits on the top of the wall seemingly all the time, plainly having learned that it is ideally positioned to catch passers-by and, by turning up the cuteness factor, get some transient affection. I'm usually suckered by this approach and as I was strolling past the other day I saw the cat was there - being petted by a girl in (I'd say) her mid-twenties.
Not being one to pass up the opportunity to strike up conversations with random womenfolk in the street I went up and started to make a fuss of the cat as well, and used the simpering feline as an excuse to say hello.
Within ten seconds I knew, instictively, that I wanted nothing to do with this woman.

I can't say what it was, but there was something that all my instincts rebelled against; something about her expression, her posture, what she said? All three? Something else? I couldn't tell you, but I just knew that I didn't want to talk to her. Instead I wanted to rudely turn and walk briskly away.
Naturally I didn't - I politely chatted for a few moments before bidding her good-day and wandering off. But I watched my reflection in the windows I passed, just to make sure she wasn't following me. She was that disconcerting.

What is it that tells us these things? What sends these messages to our brains when we meet other people? Why is it some people just seem to us to be people we can talk to and even trust on short acquaintance, whilst with some others all our nerves scream at us to make for the hills?
Of course, it's subliminals. Cues which we can't even consciously recognise from the other person but our hind-brain monkey, evolved to survive environments where getting it wrong about the intentions of others meant almost certain death sees the cues - and reacts to them.

Modern society is forcing us to supress these instincts, but it's very telling just how often people will say that they 'just knew' there was something odd about old so-and-so, just as the police show up to cart them off and dig up the fifty gallon drums in the garden. Most of the time we're inclinded to think that these claims are spurious, after the fact rationalisation but it's true that, at some level, we can tell when something is up.

I really must start to listen to my instinctive reactions more. I think they have a lot to tell me.
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Trust uyo

Date: 2004-09-13 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
I met a very casual acquaintance of my brother's once in a pub near Finsbury park (it was the summer of 81 and we were in London visiting my older sister). There was something I didn't like about him, yet he was superficially unassuming and friendly. He gave me the creeps to the extent that when his hand brushed my hand it made me feel sick.

I told Johnnie how I felt and he was irritated. He thought I found the guy sexually threatening and kept saying that I was wide of the mark and being ridiuclous (what he wouldn't say is that the guy was gay so could be no threat to me).

We had a major row about it and I got so upset that in the end Johnnie burnt the slip of paper with the bloke's name and phone number on it to calm me down because i din't want him to have anything to do with someone that gave me the fear.

The guy's name was Dennis Nilsen.

Re: Trust your instincts

Date: 2004-09-13 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
Sorry for the typos. I should be in bed.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
I find that when someone turns out to be really wierd or a psycho, if I'm honest with myself, before I pushed them down my instincts were telling me there was something wrong.

I try to follow my instincts nowadays as much as possible, they rearely let me down

Re: Trust uyo

Date: 2004-09-14 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Bloody Crikey.

Date: 2004-09-14 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I wonder if I make anyone feel like that. It's making me think, now.

Date: 2004-09-14 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
If you're not a psycho or a weirdo probably not. Instincts tend to pick up on things that are there not things you are worried people may percieve in you.

I think people sometimes think you are a tad on the arrogant side but from what i can gather you deliberately cultivate that impression and arrogance doesn't usually make people think its a really bad idea to be around you

Re: Trust uyo

Date: 2004-09-14 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
I told you I was a good judge of character.

You'll be receiving the injunction later today.

Date: 2004-09-14 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
So they have fallen for my cunning scheme? Mwu hu ha ha haaa!

Date: 2004-09-14 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com
I agree, but I reckon whatever impression Davy gives verbally is undercut by his body language which is pure big, bashful softy.

Date: 2004-09-14 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
If you want to come across as truly arrogant you'll have to stop the Barney impressions :p

Date: 2004-09-14 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
that's the thing, body language is a far harder thing to control

Date: 2004-09-14 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I only do proper Barney impressions when I play Baelzebub at the ICC.

Date: 2004-09-14 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
From the above, I seem to be managing it.

Date: 2004-09-14 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
you don't do requests then?

I would love to see your Barney impression

Date: 2004-09-14 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
you are meaning to come across as a big bashful softy then?

So which are you?

arrogant or bashful?

Date: 2004-09-14 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Aha! My secret is safe until the time is right...for me to strike!

Date: 2004-09-14 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I don't think it was what the Americans expected when they asked me to play the devil - "Why don't we all hold hands and sing a song? I love you, you love me..."

Date: 2004-09-14 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
Did they have any idea at all of what was going on?

I wish I had been there, it sounds very amusing

Can't you go to the South East regional, play a demon and re enact it all?

Date: 2004-09-14 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
well I'm scared :p

Date: 2004-09-14 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Sadly, no. I'm rushed at the moment and I can safely say that whichever weekend the SE regional is, I'm going to be booked up.

Date: 2004-09-14 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
Scotland?

Manchester round me mam's house? (I think she would be very amused)

Date: 2004-09-14 03:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cryx
ooh interesting. The thing i find hard is trying to distinguish my intuition from my prejudices and double think.

Date: 2004-09-14 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
That's the problem with that 'gut feeling'; it's easy to dismiss it as prejudice and it's only after the event that we say "I knew there was something wrong with old Mr. Willikins the fairground owner."
I wish there were, as you say, some way to discriminate. far too often my initial feeling has been proven right, or mostly right, but it's very rare that I have the undeniable rection that I got from this girl.

I have to wonder if I was right about her - and if so, what her problem is?

Date: 2004-09-14 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tooth-fairy.livejournal.com
was she carrying an axe?
Did she have a 'I boil men pets for fun' t-shirt on?

Maybe there was something really obvious that you aren't seeing because you are concentrating on the big picture

Date: 2004-09-14 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Expression. Didn't blink enough. Posture. Body language. An air of desperation and an almost palpable need. All of the above. Very odd.
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