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One thing which has become abundantly clear in recent years is that politics is becoming all the more a game of image, style and winning, and less and less about the people actually being governed. This holds true pretty much everywhere you might look.
There are glimmers of hope, mind. With the defeat of the current administration's recent "Tough on terrorCivil Liberties" bill, the more independent minded of us who rather like the idea of less-intrusive government can finally see light at the end of a particularly dark tunnel. What is needed to usher forth a new golden age is, obviously, good leadership. Leadership immune to the demands of spin and PR. Leadership which harks back to a happier, gentler age of witless buffonnery, rogering the serving staff and incisive mockery of the stupid. The time has come to rally around and emit in a cry to the heavens the name of the man we want:

"Bonking" Boris Johnson. Wit, raconteur, woolly-headed scourge of the left, and even more of a throwback to the 1950's than I am.


We, the people of The United kingdom, wish - nay demand - that Boris Bohnson be made Prime Minister as soon as humanly possible.

[Poll #615293]

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Date: 2005-11-18 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com
You do realise that an inflatable donkey is an upgrade on a good 550 of current MPs, don't you?

Date: 2005-11-18 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
429, to be precise :)

Date: 2005-11-18 01:40 pm (UTC)
reddragdiva: (gosh!)
From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
And I say that as a Guardian-reading It's-Grim-Up-North-London woolly-brained socialist.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
That's all very well, but where does he stand on the boxers V briefs debate?

Date: 2005-11-18 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
We all wish Britain were more like America, in the sense that people were more willing to take a punt, work hard, and in general have a Chumbawamba-style I-get-knocked-down, I-get-up-again approach to their lives.

I love this guy.

If he wasn't pagan (?!!) I'd probably have sex with him.

Date: 2005-11-18 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I don't think he is. I think Pagans just like him.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inskauldrak.livejournal.com
interesting, it's not just me who is programmed to OBEY.

Oh and pthrrrprpppttt (that's a rasberry, by the way) ; P

Date: 2005-11-18 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexx-uk.livejournal.com
You admitted that if Boris were our noble leader you would be tempted to vote Tory just for the comedic factor of having him as PM?
Don't deny it it was in the car coming back from coventry.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
the more independent minded of us who rather like the idea of less-intrusive government

I bet if you'd lived in America during the Cold War, you'd've had a nuclear bunker in your back garden full of tins of beans, wouldn't you?

*grin*

Date: 2005-11-18 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com
You think he _doesn't_?

It comes as standard issue along with the barbour jacket and the confused attitude to subsidies.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Heh.

He probably got a Gummint grant for it, too.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Nonsense - all our farmland is taken up growing eco-friendly willow for power generation. It's all part of a growing movement to generate energy from less polluting sources, which we farmers are all in favour of.
You ought to look it up - I hear people who like green politics are all in favour of it too.

In the meantime, though, make your cheap shots - I can take 'em :p

Date: 2005-11-18 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
I'm in the middle of holding my nose and helping a Labour MP out, hence my distractedness. It was more a general go at confused conservatives who seem to dislike the same schemes that make them lots of money. I shall be more specific in future!

Date: 2005-11-18 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
The only people in our town who had access to a nuclear bunker were the local council, who, this being Yorkshire local politics, were the most self-interested, corrupt bunch of liars you could hope to meet outside of, oh, say the NUS. It always used to really irritate me when I was small (a kid in our class had a dad who was on the council) that when the Russians started something I'd be vapourised and they'd be the people to repolulate the earth.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
What worries me most is that you couldn't make this stuff up...

the most self-interested, corrupt bunch of liars you could hope to meet outside of, oh, say the NUS

There are good people in the NUS. Just not very many of them, and they ain't so very popular. It's all good training for interacting with Tories, though.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
How would you know? You won't meet any in the NUS.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Bizarrely, there are a few. One stands for National President every year, and they generally do a wider slate.

Conservative Future are an odd bunch, if you ask me. "We don't believe in Unions...but we do want to run the NUS." Just choose one side and stick to it!

Date: 2005-11-18 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Who says we don't believe in unions? We just don't believe in the block vote, 'cos it ain't democratic.

Date: 2005-11-18 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Lots of CF types say they don't believe in Unions, and are frequently at the forefront of disaffiliation referenda.

Date: 2005-11-18 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmmarc.livejournal.com
Disaffilation- Why it never happens?
ONLY reason?
Simple- NUSSL (NUS Services Limited).
Buy beer in LARGE amounts. Get a vicious discount for student bars. How powerful are they? They made Guiness actually back down when they refused to play ball.
Now, to make Unions leave the NUS in droves actually requires a new consortium of Unions; you need about 60 at least, including the BIG barrelage boys (Sheffield, Leeds Met, the Manchester ones, Staffs, Abys, Cardiff, and Hull with someone like ULU thrown in as well) able to dictate some serious concessions of the Breweries. THEN they can sell their shares in NUSSL (which all are tied in- own vast amonts of first and second issues) which throws out NUS (who gets serious funding from NUSSL), and set up, I dunno, the Union of Democratic Students (good splitters name).
Only way...
If they needed a cash package to start them, the only group able to fund them are the UJS (who have enough cash about to supply NUS with their headquaters at a seriously reduced rent; JUS own the NUS HQ in London; which is the ONLY reason why the NUS was formally pro-Zionist- dunno if they still are).
And people think NUS has ANYTHING to do with politics...
:)

Date: 2005-11-18 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
It's a reason, but not the only reason.

You're not factoring in that disaffiliation requires a vote of students, rather than an Executive decision. Sad though it is to say it, the NUS discount is what keeps Unions affiliated.

UJS, by the way, don't own NUS HQ in London. For one thing, NUS has recently sold its HQ, and is renting for a while and is looking to relocate to Manchester, while keeping a political unit in London. Having seen the accounts, I can tell you the money for the sale went to NUS, not UJS.

Date: 2005-11-18 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmmarc.livejournal.com
(re the UJS/NUS thing) Well, I admit my information is pretty damn old! But considering it was a pro-UJS member of the national exec telling me at the time... I dunno. Things we say while drunk in Blackpool.
We are talking damn near a decade! And you are correct- its amazing how many Unions change their mind when put to the vote.
Correct me If I am wrong- are you a Regional Sabb? Almost went for one of those after my term as president. Ah, I was SUCH a NUS conferance addict...

Date: 2005-11-18 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commlal.livejournal.com
Interesting. I recon we could stuff parliment with a load of teddybears stuffed with frogs and they would do a better job of governing this country.

Still apauled that my old MP Mohammed "Swindle" Sarwar voted for the terror bill :(

Date: 2005-11-18 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Well, if people insist on voting Blair, this is what you get...

Date: 2005-11-18 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver-blue.livejournal.com
How strange. Never heard of that MP, and yet in London Requiem the firebrand Islamic fundamentalist preacher is Mohammed Sharwa. :D

Date: 2005-11-18 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commlal.livejournal.com
He is the MP for Glasgow Govan. He is a git of the highest order. He isnt MP because he is good but more because he is the only MP in a strong Muslim area.

He is a evil man, I know.

Date: 2005-11-18 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angusabranson.livejournal.com
He'd certainly be a more interesting party leader/PM. Personally I'd love to see him achieve a higher rank within the Conservative party one day.

Whether or not I'd actually vote for him is another matter though. He is Tory after all! :p

Date: 2005-11-18 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmmarc.livejournal.com
Truth?
The only Conservative leader who could possibly get elected right now (after the Beast of Bodmin himself Clark)?
Portillo.
Once I hated him. LOATHED the little swine.
About now?
I'd follow him. He has cahnaged his views, still a Conservative, but a grounded one. I loved hearing something a Daily Mail reporter said on BBCNews24 recently about the possible election of David Davies as leader...
"Looks like the Tories are going to elect another leader who will never win a general election!"
How true.
SIGH!
Hey, I miss the days when we had a serious opposition.

Date: 2005-11-18 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
the more independent minded of us who rather like the idea of less-intrusive government can finally see light at the end of a particularly dark tunnel.

Come live in the US for a while, you'll become a raving socialist. ;-)

Date: 2005-11-18 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I said 'less intrusive', not 'more intrusive but pretends to be litertarian' :)

Date: 2005-11-18 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapinenoireuk.livejournal.com
I don't really care who the Tories choose as leader (as long as they are agreeable to be strangled with barbed wire immediately afterwards) (Evil grin)
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