Kwistmas

Dec. 1st, 2005 09:56 am
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If you've been reading the news in the last few days, you might have noticed a short piece about Pipers Vale Primary School, which has banned any mention of Christmas until two weeks before the holiday. This has prompted letters to the press varying in the opinion spectrum from "Shocking, Christmas time for kids, blah blah blah" to the "Hurrah, it's about time" positions. In many ways it's easy to see where the headmistress is coming from - apparently kids so anticipate Christmas that thanks to the amount of tartrazine and sugar in their diets there have been several cases of spontaneous human combustion caused by a build up of excitement at the coming holiday.

Most people, irrespective of religious views, celebrate something at this time of year. Some religions have got lucky and have festivals which happen at the same sort of time and can easily be Shanghaied into an appropriately festive form, like Hannukah. Other people just make something up and stick tinsel on it, like Kwanzaa* or Winterval (ugh).

So, what are your thoughts on Christmas and how it is celebrated?

[Poll #624101]

*Kwanzaa is not a real festival. No self-respecting religion would have a festival that shared a spelling scheme with Kwik-Save.

I've not got room for them

Date: 2005-12-01 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Ah, Mr. Wade, you may strike me down, but a thousand of my comrades (well, [livejournal.com profile] inskauldrak) will rise up against you!

Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
So what you're saying is that I've already won, then?

Re: Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Individualism vs. collectivism, my friend. ;-)

Re: Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
So why does individualism win nine times out of ten?

Re: Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
I have two answers:

1. The current prevailing paradigm, and,
2. 90% of people are a bit c*nty.

*grin*

Re: Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
1) However, the historical record demonstrates unequivocally that individualism ultimately triumphs even in situations in which collectivism is the 'dominant paradigm'.
2) Yes, they are; one of the greatest problems the world faces is that too many political idealists seem to want to create systems around the way they think people should be, rather than the way people actually are. This is not only doomed to failure, but failure in incredibly painful and unhappy ways.

Re: Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrmmarc.livejournal.com
"So why does individualism win nine times out of ten?"
The sheer numbers who believe they are individual all gang up in their big collective and beat the crap out of anyone who suggests they are alike in anyway?

Re: Damn.

Date: 2005-12-01 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Yep - but they do so by choice, rather than being required to.

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