Intolerances
Jan. 23rd, 2009 10:24 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Chatting to a friend recently, she told me something about herself which took me by surprise. This in itself is unusual, given the rogues gallery of wierdoes and refugees from the funny farm who I seem to hang out with most of the time. I've grown inured to people telling me things like "Have I mentioned that I can rotate my limbs through 360o?", or "There was this one time, at band camp...". This wasn't something salacious or freaky, though, just surprising.
We were chatting about what we had for lunch, and I said that I make sandwishes to save money and asked if she did likewise.
"Ooh, no", she replied. "I'm gluten intolerant."
"Uh?", I replied, intelligently.
"Gluten intolerant. I can't eat bread or pasta or anything like that."
"That's odd", I said in understanding tones. "Can't you, you know, eat a little bit of bread every day and build up a tolerance over time, like with arsenic?"
"Nope", she said. "It makes my stomach start digesting itself and makes me very ill indeed. If I ate a sandwich it could put me in hospital."
I was somewhat taken aback by this. I'd heard of things like food intolerances, but in my tough Yorkshire fashion I'd always just kinda assumed that they were the result of being a bit Southern and soft and not really something to worry about. The thought that Hovis = DEATH just wasn't something which had crossed my mind.
On slow news days, the newspapers sometime worrying articles about the rise in things like asthma and food intolerances and how they just seem to be more prevalent these days. I have to wonder if they're no more common than in former times, but that we're just better at both identifying and treating them now. It’s only recently that we’ve really noticed that sometimes things like nuts and milk can be fatal and so I have to wonder just how many people died of unidentified intolerances in history. As noted in a recent post, the Victorians seems to positively expect their children to die in a picturesque way on a couch talking about angels (a recent scientific study which I’ve just made up indicates that a child dies or an unidentifiable complaint on average every forty pages in any given Victorian novel), and so one wonders whether when Little Billy was put to bed with a diet of bread and milk to strengthen him up, he was actually being seen off by his joint lactose and gluten intolerances. There’s a cruel irony in that, I think.
Further back into history people seem to have died from all kinds of weird and wonderful – and downright inexplicable to modern eyes - things. Cause of death in the UK was first reported routinely in the 1600’s, and examination of the parish records of St Giles in the Fields from a single month in that century shows that amongst the obvious things like ‘plague’ and ‘executed for treason’, two people died of an affliction called ‘planet’. I’ve no idea how someone could die of ‘planet’ short of one dropping on them, and that strikes me as unlikely at best.
Unless it was something to do with their digestive system caused by Uranus.
Heh heh heh. Uranus. Gets me every time.
However, you hopefully get my point that medical science has only really just started identifying these complaints and so saying they’re on the rise might just be due to us simply seeing things which were there all the time but not recognised.
But what do I know?
A poll:
[Poll #1336067]
We were chatting about what we had for lunch, and I said that I make sandwishes to save money and asked if she did likewise.
"Ooh, no", she replied. "I'm gluten intolerant."
"Uh?", I replied, intelligently.
"Gluten intolerant. I can't eat bread or pasta or anything like that."
"That's odd", I said in understanding tones. "Can't you, you know, eat a little bit of bread every day and build up a tolerance over time, like with arsenic?"
"Nope", she said. "It makes my stomach start digesting itself and makes me very ill indeed. If I ate a sandwich it could put me in hospital."
I was somewhat taken aback by this. I'd heard of things like food intolerances, but in my tough Yorkshire fashion I'd always just kinda assumed that they were the result of being a bit Southern and soft and not really something to worry about. The thought that Hovis = DEATH just wasn't something which had crossed my mind.
On slow news days, the newspapers sometime worrying articles about the rise in things like asthma and food intolerances and how they just seem to be more prevalent these days. I have to wonder if they're no more common than in former times, but that we're just better at both identifying and treating them now. It’s only recently that we’ve really noticed that sometimes things like nuts and milk can be fatal and so I have to wonder just how many people died of unidentified intolerances in history. As noted in a recent post, the Victorians seems to positively expect their children to die in a picturesque way on a couch talking about angels (a recent scientific study which I’ve just made up indicates that a child dies or an unidentifiable complaint on average every forty pages in any given Victorian novel), and so one wonders whether when Little Billy was put to bed with a diet of bread and milk to strengthen him up, he was actually being seen off by his joint lactose and gluten intolerances. There’s a cruel irony in that, I think.
Further back into history people seem to have died from all kinds of weird and wonderful – and downright inexplicable to modern eyes - things. Cause of death in the UK was first reported routinely in the 1600’s, and examination of the parish records of St Giles in the Fields from a single month in that century shows that amongst the obvious things like ‘plague’ and ‘executed for treason’, two people died of an affliction called ‘planet’. I’ve no idea how someone could die of ‘planet’ short of one dropping on them, and that strikes me as unlikely at best.
Unless it was something to do with their digestive system caused by Uranus.
Heh heh heh. Uranus. Gets me every time.
However, you hopefully get my point that medical science has only really just started identifying these complaints and so saying they’re on the rise might just be due to us simply seeing things which were there all the time but not recognised.
But what do I know?
A poll:
[Poll #1336067]
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Date: 2009-01-23 10:55 am (UTC)I am a traitor to my blood.
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Date: 2009-01-23 11:22 am (UTC)Though apparently it's hilarious when I call someone a "mardy arsed bastard" in my nice Home Counties accent.
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Date: 2009-01-23 07:27 pm (UTC)If that is the price then I say damn the Southerners!
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Date: 2009-01-23 10:56 am (UTC)I used to have similar views too, till I got to know people with such allergies and intolerances - some of which were minor (you may remember a bald chap by the name of Morgan from the old-times in the Cam - he was gluten intolerant, like you find in the lager he'd down by the gallon and in the pizza he'd have after, but it just gave him bad guts and nasty wind...which was charming when we were crashing somewhere and all sleeping in the same room) and some of which can cause proper badness.
Personally I suffer from hayfever, and have a number of things as set off my asthma...but I rarely let that stop me, for example, making a fuss over a dog (the fur can make me be unable to breath). After all, there is no point in letting a mere medical thing stop you enjoying life!
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Date: 2009-01-23 11:26 am (UTC)This is not fun.
As an aside, I'm also latex intolerant. This apparently is quite common in people with banana allergy. I found out that I had a latex allergy in a manner that was just as undignified and shame inducing as you might think.
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Date: 2009-01-23 11:30 am (UTC)The scarring on my forehead has been a problem ever since.
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Date: 2009-01-23 11:37 am (UTC)I get hayfever, alergic to my cat and possibly non-specific rhinitis too.
Oh, and I came up in a rash when given a specific antibiotic who's name I can't remember (written down somewhere).
I know of the following (each a different person): Melon, Fish, Cheese, Lavender, Mint, Onion, Mushrooms, Yoghurt.
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Date: 2009-01-23 11:45 am (UTC)H
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Date: 2009-01-23 11:51 am (UTC)My wife is allergic to pineapple.
Some of the reasons that we get more of these in modern times: fairly constant chemical barrage (kids who lived alongside a motorway in Japan with lots of diesel fumes became allergic to cherry blossom) and also we live through a lot more of the diseases that would have killed us once (my allergies/intolerances came about after I survived a nasty measles attack in my teens).
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Date: 2009-01-23 12:10 pm (UTC)Oddly enough, fresh peaches give me canker sores, and I've allergies to a few medications. There's an anti-nausea medication commonly used in hospitals that gives me full body shakes...making for an extraordinarily annoyed x-ray technician.
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Date: 2009-01-23 12:18 pm (UTC)Dairy products will give me what feels like mild bronchitis.
I used to have hayfever, but seem to have lost it.
I can't metabolise alcohol properly. I go straight from sober to falling over and throwing up after about 3/4 a pint - the change happens in the space of about two glugs. Fortunately there's a warning feeling of dizziness in between those two glugs that says "stop, right now". This appears to be due to a mildly malfunctioning liver (and no, I hadn't pickled it beforehand - that might have been worth it!).
Various things either in excess or in combination will set off IBS - "rich" foods, dairy, alcohol, plus possibly some as yet unidentified triggers as well.
The dairy reaction is odd - I had about a year or so when I could cope with milk, cream, and cottage cheese, but not even a trace of "real" cheese or yoghurt. That was almost certainly caused by antibiotics killing off all my "friendly bacteria". Now, I'm fine on the cheese and yoghurt, but only very limited quantities of milk and cream. Still, I'm more into pizza and curry than I am into desserts full of cream, so this way round is fine by me.
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Date: 2009-01-23 12:53 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-01-23 01:08 pm (UTC)Fish and seafood, some artificial sweetners, cow meat, moderate amounts of caffine, fabic softener (when used normally, I don't eat it), erratic hayfever.
There is also an occasional non-specific skin irritation, the source of which I have not been able to identify.
In the great victorian novel I'd not have made it off the chaise lounge after chapter 3.
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Date: 2009-01-23 01:23 pm (UTC)Cheese is more a "feel distinctly queasy" thing but me & fish - don't go there
On a semi-related bit - I suppose you saw the story of the bloke accused of shutting down his employers production line by the scattering of peanuts.
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Date: 2009-01-23 01:42 pm (UTC)Therefore she can only have hard liquor, and cheese only in moderation. Otherwise she gets an upset stomach with cramps like you wouldn't believe. This also makes things like the cat bringing a mild case of ringworm into the house an adventure...
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Date: 2009-01-23 03:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-23 02:26 pm (UTC)- Onions (Garlic ok in v small amounts)
- Raw milk products (so cheese is OK, but fresh cream = doom...I'm assuming protein deformation is responsible)
- Rennet (so vegetarian/soft cheeses would be OK, but a lot of hard cheeses are out)
- Red wine
- Mushrooms
- Fish
...um, I /think/ that's the lot..
Which considering that funnily enough, we just cook one pot of food to suit everyone, can be a bit challenging ;)
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Date: 2009-01-23 02:57 pm (UTC)2. Wingnut Republicans. I get along, even with conservatives, but people who can't even articulate what and why they believe what they do, and are incapable of logically connecting their actions with their beliefs make me homicidal.
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Date: 2009-01-23 07:38 pm (UTC)V
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Date: 2009-01-23 08:47 pm (UTC)The best part of the irony is: The anti-depressants I used to take contained lactose, so I was making myself more depressed with the anti-depressants... f***ing great!
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Date: 2009-01-24 12:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-26 05:30 pm (UTC)I do. Can I have a bit of an allergy on tuesday afternoons? Preferably to something exotic and romantic.
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