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There's a theory which says that the monsters in our stories are simply anthropomorphisations of those parts of ourselves and our environment which we fear, and the purpose in telling those stories is a way to control ourselves and our environment and to face our fears in a safe way.
The witch scares of the middle ages (and which still go on in some part of the world) were a way of finding a human agency to be responsible for accidents and disasters in an uncontrollable world. The Martian Invasion films of the 1950's and 1960's were a way of representating fears of Reds Under the Bed.
In the 1980's and 1990's, vampires (of the traditional, Bram Stoker sort (not the friendly modern sparkly sort)) were the monster of pop culture choice. However, in the last decade zombies have become the ascendant supernatural threat. Perhaps this represents a comtemporary social fear that we're all becoming mindless drones in a society in which individuality counts for nothing, or something.

Anyway, it's amazing how pervasive ideas contained within entertainment media can be. Studies showed that people were more than three times as likely to believe in the likelihood of catastrophic climate change after watching Eco-Thriller The Day After Tomorrow, and that was quite astonishing cobblers.
In the same light, it never ceases to surprise me how many of my friends have zombie-apocalypse survival plans. You know, just in case.

So; question for the day. Do you have a zombie survival plan, just in case? If, on the morrow, the dead start rising from their graves and feasting on the flesh of the living, what will you do?

Date: 2009-10-20 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
I have a general apocalypse survival plan; it just happens to include zombies, nuclear war, plague, general society breakdown (etc) as well.

Phone the buddies, grab my survival gear and batton down the hatches in my loft until it calms down a bit; My loft is pretty secure vs. zombies.

Date: 2009-10-20 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Surely you'd have to come out for food & water (and the lavatory) sooner or later?

Date: 2009-10-20 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
I have enough tins and preserved food to last myself about a month.

There is a water tank in the roof for water.

After a month things should have calmed down enough to start scavenging.

Date: 2009-10-20 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
No specific zombie plans, though my wife and I agreed a number of safe meeting places in the case of disaster bringing down the communication networks (afetr we had a nightmare getting in touch on the 7th of July 05), though we do need to modernise these plans.

I think in case of zombie invasion I'd head for the surrey hills, there are a number of isolated farmhouses and a couple of old secure towers there that would be easy to defend against the walking dead for at least some time.

I do have a friend in Australia who has a full kit including ropes, armour, rations, swords and crossbow.

Date: 2009-10-20 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
Crossbow? Great for survival/hunting but poor as a missile weapon against the hordes of the dead surely...?

Date: 2009-10-20 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
So much for severing the head or destroying the brain, eh?

Date: 2009-10-20 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
It's more a ranged weapon to hold off other people until he can get his hands on a firearm as I recall. The swords were more for zombie killin'.

Date: 2009-10-20 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
I have a plan, however, I don't want to discuss such things over an unsecured forum in case of intelligent (internet-using) zombies (or other end of days bad types). The plan is, by necessity, simple and adaptable as the exact nature of the end-times scenario isn't going to be clear until it happens.

Sadly I admit that i'm out of shape so, when it does happen, i'm unlikely to make it without a good team/crew and some luck - but if I can get other people out then the planning'll be worthwhile!

Date: 2009-10-20 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
(internet-using) zombies

That'll be most of LJ, then.

Date: 2009-10-20 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
Well, yes - remember, surprise and secrecy are weapons too; and in a country where access to high capacity, useful ranged weaponry is limited (though the fact that shotguns are available is a comfort) avoiding direct confrontations may be the best option where possible!

Date: 2009-10-20 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Maybe we should start killing people now in a head-destroying sort of way, in order to reduce potential threats later?

Date: 2009-10-20 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I have a series of existential threat plans. Unfortunately they're probably all useless.

Date: 2009-10-20 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
btw, World War Z suggests we should head for the castles - they're pretty much invulnerable to things that cannot mount a siege, like zombies. Lots of them have wells and even stocks of melee weapons.

Date: 2009-10-20 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Not a bad idea but many have holes in the walls, thanks to the civil war, and I'm not sure I'd really want to live out of some of their wells!

Plus I'm not sure there will be enough castles to go around.

Date: 2009-10-20 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
Given we're gonna lose a lot of the chavs population when the zombie plague hits there will probably be enough to go around.

Date: 2009-10-20 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
IIRC there were almost no castles (which are not currently royal residences) left intact after the civil war - most of the fights were skirmishes or small>large sieges - and when captured things were normally "slighted" so that they could not be used. Many castles had fallen into disrepair before the civil war though - they were outdated and uncomfortable buildings by the 16th and 17th centuries.

Date: 2009-10-20 10:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] supermouse.livejournal.com
My plans are all post-peak-oil plans, some of which can be adapted to zombie invasion.

Date: 2009-10-20 11:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
1) Run to the Thames.

2) Steal one of the boats moored there.

3) Set sail.

4) Find small island.

5) Prosper.

Zombies will never make it to the Shetlands.

Date: 2009-10-20 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
Unless they are world war Z style zombies who can quite happily walk along under the water and therefore overwhelmed most of the small islands.

Date: 2009-10-20 11:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
I don't believe in those kind of zombies. They make no sense. And how did they climb up the rather steep underwater inclines to get from the ocean floor to the island shelf?

Date: 2009-10-20 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
They're animated corpses - they don't need to breathe!

And they can climb very slowly. 28 days later ones you'd be fine with - probably - but dead rising zombies are aquatic terrors!

Date: 2009-10-20 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
Don't tell people my plans! Don't you know that zombies might be able to use the internet?!

Date: 2009-10-20 11:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annwfyn.livejournal.com
Sorry!

Do you have an actual short list of islands planned out, or is that just me?

Date: 2009-10-20 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
I wasn't necessarily planning on an island - decent sized ship, plying the sea lanes...safety in movement... Depends on how long supplies can last before it becomes necessary to settle down to cultivate food; I'm thinking that a hunter (fisher?) gatherer (scavenger) lifestyle would be reasonable as long as the population is hugely reduced...

Date: 2009-10-20 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
A WW2 minesweeper would probably be about the right size.

Date: 2009-10-20 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
Actually most of the British ones were converted from other types of ships - one of the larger American ones though, that might be spot on...

Date: 2009-10-20 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rssefuirosu.livejournal.com
I have an all-encompassing general apocalypse plan, which is easily adapted to zombies or whathaveyou at short notice.

Date: 2009-10-21 05:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-20 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fonnparr.livejournal.com
The same thing we do every day Davey - TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

Date: 2009-10-20 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
You'll be pleased to know Im' still chulckling over the game this weekend:

"It's the moral compromises forced upon me by authority! STAY DOWN HIPPY!" *Thwack*

Date: 2009-10-20 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fonnparr.livejournal.com
I forgot about that one - now added to the quotes list

Date: 2009-10-20 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiromasaki.livejournal.com
My plan is pretty much do whatever you can to get out of the city alive. (thanking the graces for having a fuel-efficient SUV that while not 4wd, has enough ground clearance to go off-road in good conditions to get around traffic.)

Next stop is southern Ohio, to collect the family of a friend of mine, and his grandfather's arsenal. Yes, just like Eddie Izzard said, grandfather's arsenal.

Last stop is my family's farm in West Virginia. Far enough from any center of population to avoid large concentrations of zombies, but close enough to drive in to scavenge for canned goods and ammunition.

Zombie Survival Plan

Date: 2009-10-20 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
"Do you have a zombie survival plan, just in case?"

Yes.

"If, on the morrow, the dead start rising from their graves and feasting on the flesh of the living, what will you do?"

Now that would be telling.

I'll just say that my plans has short, intermediate, and long-term phases.

EDIT: It remains to be seen whether sexy post-apocalyptic babes will jump in my arms though.
Edited Date: 2009-10-20 02:11 pm (UTC)

Now that would be telling.

Date: 2009-10-20 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Of course it would be telling. That's why I'm asking

It's hardly like we'll be competing for the same resources, is it?

Re: Now that would be telling.

Date: 2009-10-20 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
"It's hardly like we'll be competing for the same resources, is it?"

Oh, that's what you say now. One can never tell if you'll be Patient Zero or not. ;-p

On a slightly more serious note, there's a very narrow window where the temptation to hop a plane ahead of the border closures may appeal, compared to the inevitable urban exodus...especially considering how many US cities of the west are prone to fire.

Re: Now that would be telling.

Date: 2009-10-20 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I'd've thought that the US would be a safer place to be than here, due to the lower population and the handy firearm vending machines you put in every schoolyard.

Re: Now that would be telling.

Date: 2009-10-20 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Yeah, but the US doesn't have shopping cart collector jobs to quickly put the zombie population to use. We literally only have our God Given Right to Arm Bears to deal with the Zombie Menace. ;-)
Edited Date: 2009-10-20 02:35 pm (UTC)

Re: Now that would be telling.

Date: 2009-10-20 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
If there's one thing we can be sure of if the zombie plague strikes over here, they'll be demanding to consume the brains of others as a matter of right and claiming discrimination when prevented from doing so.

So not much would change, really.

"Equal rights for deadites"

Re: Now that would be telling.

Date: 2009-10-20 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Yeah, but when the Deadites start saying "slip me some sugar" to the women, I really have to draw the line. If, as a Living Man, I can't compete against a Deadite, then the game is up. ;-)
Edited Date: 2009-10-20 02:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-20 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedyman.livejournal.com
Yes I have a plan, but as it all depends on what type of zombie (and is rather too detailed) I won't post them all up here.

BTW I think one of the reasons that so many people have Zombie Survival Plans is because no-one can survive a zombie uprising. The only way to make it through alive is to become an inhumane sociopath.

The most revealing thing about this thread ...

Date: 2009-10-21 08:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
... is that most of your friends are too cautious to reveal their zombie apocalypse survival plans in detail.

H
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I wonder why I talk to them sometimes, really I do.

Date: 2009-10-21 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
Myself and some buddies have a plan that involves storming a castle not too far away with enough whiskey, tinned food, armaments and explosives to last *a while*. Having blueprints of said castle through one of said buddies who is a surveyor is helpful!

Date: 2009-10-21 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kashinthegreen.livejournal.com
I read an article the other day about vampires being gay men http://www.esquire.com/features/thousand-words-on-culture/vampires-gay-men-1109. Crazy stuff, or something.

When the zombie apocalypse hits I will be.... actually, no I can't tell you, lest you become a slightly mindful zombie and find me. Me and my ex once had a heated debate in B&Q about which garden tools we needed, based on their usefulness in an zombie apocalypse. I wanted a scythe, but he wanted a chainsaw. Other shoppers were somewhat confused.

Date: 2009-10-21 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm going to find Eliza Dushku, and together, hide behind Bruce Campbell.
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