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Every generation grows up convinced that the entertainment when they were children was the best ever, and kids today - tsk! - they just dont' know what they're missing. Obviously, most generations are wrong in this belief as it has been established as scientific fact that kids entertainment was best in the 1980's when I was growing up, and all the other, lesser, decades just don't have a patch on it.

Anyway, I recently picked up a box set of Knight Rider because I loved it when I was about ten. The gripping adventures of a man and his cybernetic, artificially intelligent robot car who drove around together solving crimes and bringing criminals who operate above the law to justice. What could be more wholesome than that?
I hadn't seen an episode in maybe twenty years and it's nice to have a bit of nostaligia when I get home from work now and again, but as I've watched my way through the first few eopisodes something has dawned on me which I just never realised when I was younger. You see, as I watch it I realise that it isn't just a simple gripping adventure story. It's the story of a love affair between a man with his shirt open to his navel and his big, black, sleek, powerful, but curiously camp car. To be blunt, it is really quite incredibly homoerotic. I didn't pick up on that when I was ten.

Take the episode I watched last night as an example. Kitt (the supercar) was stolen by a villain who removed the AI CPU from the car and dropped it in the middle of nowhere. Michael (the hero) found the CPU (containing KITT's personality) simply by following his instincts. As he said; "I just had this feeling of his presense", and the two then spent most of the episode driving around in an ancient jalopy arguing like an old married couple.
Eventually, the villains were defeated, the chassis recovered and KITT's mind put back in. To celebrate their reunion, Michael and Kitt went for a drive and the episode ended with this exchange:
Michael (pressing hard on the accelerator): "C'mon, Kitt! Let's open you up and see what we can do!"
Kitt: "Oooh, Michael, that feels good. Faster!"
I'm just surprised that the titles didn't roll over a shot of them driving into a tunnel.

The things is, all the episodes are like this. If you look for it, they're crammed with innuendo. It is, to coin a phrase, eye-opening. And the more I think about it, this sort of thing was everywhere in the films and TV I liked as a kid, and I just never noticed. I mean, everyone knows that Top Gun is about the passionate affair between Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer, but what about The A-Team? Four rough, tough single men who live together in a van and vie for Hannibal's attention in a grim 'daddy'bear' relationship. Predator? A bunch of heavy-muscled single men being picked off one at a time by an 'invisible killer'. Rambo? A muscular, shirtless single man who'll do anything for a man in uniform as they're the only people who understand him. And don't even get me started on He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. I'll tell you what - if I'd realised all this when I was fifteen it'd've completely changed my perceptions of television. I wonder just how much of this was deliberate, or whether the entire 1980's were just inadvertantly spectacularly camp. But what do I know? So, a poll.

[Poll #1520661]

*Does anyone actually know what a Semiotic is? For all I know it might be a type of fish.
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Date: 2010-02-03 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I was thinking about He-man this morning*, and I can honestly say I'd never before twigged the subtext to him becoming the most powerful man in the universe when he gets his magic sword out. I'm just an innocent, really.

*Not like that

Date: 2010-02-03 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginasketch.livejournal.com
I was thinking about He-man this morning

snicker.

Date: 2010-02-03 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I said not like that!

Date: 2010-02-04 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Hey, don't forget the penis-educational Thundercats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qd_IsxgAf8) (which is also to blame for at least one generation of Furries).

Date: 2010-02-03 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
All Cosgrove-Hall productions are rammed with double-entendre! Trapdoor is notorious for it.

Date: 2010-02-03 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
I remember that episode...

Date: 2010-02-03 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginasketch.livejournal.com
Why has no one mentioned Rainbow?

Date: 2010-02-03 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Don't start about twangers. Just don't.
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Date: 2010-02-03 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I said don't start about twangers!

Oh, I'm onto a loser here.

Date: 2010-02-03 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
The 80s were indeed incredibly camp. It wasn't just kids TV.

The eighties were camp?

Date: 2010-02-03 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I just don't remember it like that at all! Then again, I was surprised when george Michael came out.

Re: The eighties were camp?

Date: 2010-02-03 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
I did kinda wonder if it was because homosexuality was just beginning to be socially accepted, so given that there were/are quite a few people of that persuasion working in media, I think they all started simultaneously expressing themselves* at once. Or at least inserting in-jokes*.

I'm not sure that explains the Chuckle brothers though. Or David Hasslehof. Maybe you need better gaydar?!

*ooer

Re: The eighties were camp?

Date: 2010-02-03 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
I'm scared to investigate to be honest, but those mullet/tache/polo shirt/chino combos are more than a little camp, no?

I once got swore at by a Chuckle Brother at Butlins. I caught him having a fag* behind the stage. True story!

* I CAN'T HELP IT

Re: The eighties were camp?

Date: 2010-02-04 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redhillian.livejournal.com
One of them still smokes round the stage door, we've been known to disguise him as a member of crew before.

Re: The eighties were camp?

Date: 2010-02-04 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redhillian.livejournal.com
Speaking as a man who has met and worked with them professionally, and is openly bisexual?

No, they're not. One of them even had a reputation for sleeping with some of the fans mothers - and got caught out by the tabloid media a few year back for it.

They're both (afaik) straight, happily married and have a variety of kids.

Re: The eighties were camp?

Date: 2010-02-04 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Surely that was the 'start' of THE GAY AGENDA? ;-)

Date: 2010-02-04 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
I suspect the 80s were either willfully ignoring or completely capitulating to the shock of Liberace.

Date: 2010-02-03 11:54 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] supermouse.livejournal.com
I'm honestly having trouble deciding. All I know is that there will be slash of *all* of them.

Are you aware of He-man's personal angst as expressed in song? (http://www.whoomp.com/funny-videos/he-man-does-4nonblondes.html).

Date: 2010-02-03 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
there will be slash of *all* of them.

I leave that sort of thing to other people!
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Date: 2010-02-03 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patchworkkid.livejournal.com
Hang on, Val Kilmer voiced KITT? What the hell? He doesn't need that kind of work!

(hits IMDB)

It was an actual TV show from last year. Jesus. I notice he got a tonne of work after that, so I guess he didn't need to do it. Maybe it was just suitcase of money in exchange for a couple of days voicework. Still... weird.

Date: 2010-02-03 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Never mind homoeroticism. On revisiting 80s primetime action shows I'm far more surprised by the outrageously Libertarian undercurrent that runs through them all which I was oblivious to in my childhood. Knight Rider, Airwolf and The A-Team are all basically about unaccountable and heavily armed private individuals who all go about dispensing justice-for-hire.

It must've been one hell of a Zeitgeist they were capturing.

Date: 2010-02-03 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Knight Rider, Airwolf and The A-Team are all basically about unaccountable and heavily armed private individuals who all go about dispensing justice-for-hire

I know. Isn't it awesome.

Date: 2010-02-03 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I just find it a very interesting and era-appropriate take on the hero archetype. They're not doing it out of revenge, or honour, or responsibility, or some elaborate moral code. They're doing it because they bloody love it, and they're getting paid for it.

There's a bit in the trailer for Iron Man 2 where it's ruled that the authorities can't force Tony Stark to hand over the Iron man suit, and he stands up, turns to the court spectators and announces how he's successfully privatised world peace. I bloody love that line.

Date: 2010-02-03 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
(Cheers)

They're all about the individual taking responsibility for their world they live in rather than abrogating it to the state. Naturally, I find myself cheering at such sentiments :)

Date: 2010-02-03 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I'd love to see the postmodern counterpoint to it, with private individuals who come into possession of a sleek sexy superweapon and use it exclusively for self-indulgent, git-like behaviour.

Date: 2010-02-03 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
That'll be the plot of most 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's Bond films then.

Date: 2010-02-03 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I'm thinking more like Richie and Eddie from Bottom Getting their hands on Airwolf.

Date: 2010-02-03 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
What, a film about a helicopter crash?
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Date: 2010-02-03 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
So...um...a type of fish, then?

Date: 2010-02-03 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobbsthepenguin.livejournal.com
So a guy that I know, bought a KITT that was used for interior shots or something. I can't tell how much money he's spent on the thing, but he loves that car...and oddly the guy down the street from him, also is rehab'ing a car to look like KITT, and they work on it together. I think they picked up subconsciously on those undertones...

Date: 2010-02-03 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Do they have conversations where they offer to open each other up and go as fast as possible?

Date: 2010-02-03 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobbsthepenguin.livejournal.com
I'd assume so. I mean the guy I know, has only taken his girlfriend for a ride in it once....I assume that's because it would affect his bonding with KITT.

Date: 2010-02-03 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
Visually speaking, a semiotic would presumably a sign or symbol, but I'm sure the language doesn't work like that.

The study of semiotics is all about recognising and analysing 'things' that signify, identify or suggest something - white hats for good guys, black hats for bad - that kind of thing.

As for the 80's, its an amazing thing - the overwhelming urge for ostenatious, showy displays of power (particularly through the male focus) were all the rage. To have acknowledge the homosexual connotations would have ruined everything - the semiotics of 'manly power' at the time were extremely close to the semiotics of 'as gay as Freddie Mecury wrestling Elton John in a vat of baby oil'. I think a lot of programs tried to power through by being 'more macho' - after all, if we give the oiled, muscly man a huge machine gun, it won't be gay...

I also think that a lot of people in the industry used the opportunity to put in as many obvious homoerotic references as humanly possible to see if anyone twigged, but no-one seemed to.

Looking back at it now, many of the Macho trappings of the 80's have lost their 'I am powerful' associations, and so two men wearing nothing but towels playing volleyball and slapping each other on the back simply says 'homoerotic flirting' rather than 'struggle for dominance'.

Oh.. and you should probably add Thundercats to the list - He-Man may have become powerful when he drew his sword, but Lion-o's got Bigger when he held it...




Date: 2010-02-03 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I thought of Thundercats on the way to work this morning, but had forgotten them when I actually came to write it down. I ought to keep better notes.

Date: 2010-02-03 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
There are few things more macho than a leotard with a hole cut out so you can see your abs!

Date: 2010-02-03 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I wear one of those.

Well, actually it's a t-shirt which is too small to fit over my belly, but the general concept is the same.

Date: 2010-02-03 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com
You're thinking of the Semionotiformes (http://www.palaeos.com/Vertebrates/Units/100Neopterygii/100.600.html). So yes. There really is type of fish.
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Date: 2010-02-04 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Oh dear god. How many of those girls did he father?

Date: 2010-02-04 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
Funny that you wrote about this, I was just thinking on the way home, why the Equality Now (gay marriage) folks haven't appropriated Jason Bourne...

The Bourne Referendum: a physically intense young man can't remember who he is, on the run from government assassins, and discovers...he's gay! Denouement will have to be a Dance Off to Cher, of course. ;-)

CORRECTION

Date: 2010-02-04 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
No wait, I was wrong. There's worse, much much worse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkbB-X9654s&feature=fvw).

Date: 2010-02-04 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
I'm going to have to disagree with Top Gun and Magnum. Both were overt machismo designed to attract women. He-Man, however, you never saw away from his tiny little dwarf friend and his sister.

Date: 2010-03-15 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essius.livejournal.com
Semiotics is the study of the action or operation of signs. Hence, the semiotic of Knight Rider would be the observation of what signifying or "semiotic" processes are occurring in the show.
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