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The psychopath test, a bit of quick 'n' easy pop psychology, has been doing the rounds lately due to being given a dose of publicity by Jon Ronson writing a book about it and the people who score highly on it.
In short the test (Robert Hare's PCL-R, if you're interested) is a list of twenty questions, and the higher you score the more likely it is you're a psychopath. That's not a killing people and eating them sort of psychopath that is, but an amoral and pushy little git who doesn't care if they have to tread on a few toes to get ahead sort of psychopath.
The point being made in the press is that people who score highly on the test are also people who tend to do well in business and so this shows how the capitalist system is actually being run by - omg! - psychopaths out for themselves and not benevolently for everyone.

I'll leave you to pick yourself up off the floor and dust yourself off after that revelation.

What Jon Ronson's book and the surrounding reportage fail to observe is that the same people would rise to the top of any system; the people who are global business tycoons now would be members of the Poltiburo under a Communist system and you'd be shot in the face for saying they were psychopaths; this doesn't strike me as any sort of particular improvement. However, people who want to believe that capitalism is teh ev1l have been all over this one like the rash I once got after a night out at 5th Avenue in Manchester in 1991.

Anyway, the twenty characteristics of a psychopath the test looks for are as follows. Why not score yourself? Rate yourself 0 for never, 1 for sometimes and 2 for always:


1.Glibness and Superficial Charm – Smooth-talking, engaging and slick.
2.Grandiose Self-Worth – Greatly inflated idea of one's abilities and self-esteem, arrogance and a sense of superiority.
3.Needs Stimulation/Prone to Boredom – An excessive need for new, exciting stimulation and risk-taking.
4.Pathological Lying – Shrewd, crafty, sly and clever when moderate; deceptive, deceitful, underhanded and unscrupulous when high.
5.Manipulative – Uses deceit and deception to cheat others for personal gain.
6.No Guilt/Remorse: no feelings or concern for losses, pain and suffering of others, coldhearted and unempathic.
7.Emotional Poverty – Limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness.
8.Lacks Empathy – A lack of feelings toward others; cold, contemptuous and inconsiderate.
9.Parasitic Lifestyle – Intentional, manipulative, selfish and exploitative financial dependence on others.
10.Poor Behavioral Controls – Expressions of negative feelings, verbal abuse and inappropriate expressions of anger.
11.Promiscuity – Brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs and an indiscriminate choice of sexual partners.
12.No Realistic Long-Term Goals – Inability or constant failure to develop and accomplish long-term plans.
13.Impulsiveness – Behaviors lacking reflection or planning and done without considering consequences.
14.Irresponsible – Repeated failure to fulfill or honor commitments and obligations.
15.Fails to Accept Responsibility for Own Behavior – Denial of responsibility and an attempt to manipulate others through this.
16.Many Short-Term Marital Relationships – Lack of commitment to a long-term relationship.
17.Early Behavior Problems – A variety of dysfunctional and unacceptable behaviors before age thirteen.
18.Juvenile Delinquency – Criminal behavioral problems between the ages of 13-18.
19.Revocation of Conditional Release – Violating probation or other conditional release because of technicalities.
20.Criminal Versatility – Diversity of criminal offenses, whether or not the individual has been arrested or convicted.

To my dismay, I only score eleven. I MUST TRY HARDER.

What's your score?

Date: 2011-06-15 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Isn't this basically what the book/film The Corporation said?

On a procedural note, doesn't telling people that it's a test for psychopathy likely influence their answers in one direction or another?

Date: 2011-06-15 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
The actual test is a series of conversations in which the interviewer looks for corroborating behaviours in the subject and scores them appropriately. The potential holes in this methodology could have a truck driven through them but it makes for a snappy title and political thesis, right?

The Corporation made the point that companies are treated legally as individuals and required by law to act in their own best interest. It came to the conclusion that this inevitably resulted in them acting like psychopaths, a conclusion which is once again debatable.

Date: 2011-06-15 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
That seems much better, but aye - flawed methodology at best. Presumably requires a psychic interviewer or someone otherwise manipulation-proof?

Date: 2011-06-15 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Well, as we know, psychologists are the most objective people out there. It's why you and I look at identical evidence and come to identical conclusions.

Date: 2011-06-15 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
Indeed. Although I thought it was because we were freakin' awesome.

Date: 2011-06-15 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
What's this *we*, eh?

Date: 2011-06-15 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedhalo.livejournal.com
It's your LJ and I thought it would be inappropriate to be so rude to you ;-)

Date: 2011-06-15 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
There you go, drawing inaccurate conclusions again. You need to be more objective, like what I am :D

Date: 2011-06-15 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
I know that psycopathy and sociopathy are commonly conflated, not sharply distinguished, no longer terms which feature strongly in the DSM and are now awkward colloquial terms not attached to rigorous diagnostic criteria, blahblahblahBLAHblahblah, and so on, but isn't it sociopaths, less characterised by poor impulse control, that are supposed to do well in tournament-style hierarchical organisations?

Date: 2011-06-15 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I don't think of them as sociopaths, just differently moral.

In D&D terms, most large organisations become Lawful Evil almost inevitably.

Date: 2011-06-15 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Ironically enough, initial drafts suggest D&D alignment is likely to remain in the DSM-5.

Date: 2011-06-15 11:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-06-15 11:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
All player characters are basically psychopaths, aren't they

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Date: 2011-06-15 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I wasn't expecting it to be taken entirely seriously, but the scene in which that fellow's intestines were made into sausages took me aback rather.

Date: 2011-06-16 05:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I thought having a sausage machine on my equipment list was rather a hint.

Date: 2011-06-15 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
If you'd asked me these things about 20 years ago I would have been off the scale, but now I get a paltry 6, 7 if I screw my eyes up.
I would have thought that was true of many? Certainly many of my associates from around that time shared those attributes and have since mellowed similarly.
I knew the young were crazy

Date: 2011-06-15 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
So I missed your criminal, promiscuous psychotic phase?

Life is so cruel.

Date: 2011-06-15 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnommi.livejournal.com
Actually I wasn't particularly criminal, well not on purpose. On second thoughts, I plead the fifth!

Date: 2011-06-15 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampyrefate.livejournal.com
I reckon my score ranges between 5 and 15 on this one.
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Date: 2011-06-15 04:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-06-16 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
I'm having trouble distinguishing that list from a bipolar list, to be honest.

Date: 2011-06-16 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
I must protest! There are a large number of traits on there that would apply to manic episodes, but mania alone does not mean bipolar (for obvious reasons). Also to qualify for socio/psycho/Anti-social Personality Disorder such approaches need to be engrained and constant rather than episodic.

It would however be noteworthy to point out that the qualities that make people who could be considered sociopathic in the 'good at business' sense also apply to hypomania which leads us back to the number of people retroactively diagnosed with Bipolar disorder who greatly excelled in their fields.

Date: 2011-06-17 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] applez.livejournal.com
No offense intended. I merely mean to show that the "psychopathy test" is so generic (without ranges of response, even) as to become almost useless.

I ran the course of a relationship with a bipolar woman, so I'm well aware of how wide that range can be, and the sensitivity of the issue.

Date: 2011-06-17 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belak-krin.livejournal.com
No problem, the internet probably failed to capture my faux-python protest. To be honest, those 20 things to look for (which would have been identified during lengthy conversations I suspect) differ little from the identification criteria used by the DSM.

As the husband of a bipolar psychology grad, I've actually read through bits of the DSM (apparently this is what psych students consider a 'party game') and essentially, anyone can be diagnosed with something, particularly when it comes to personality disorders.

One of the major criteria for diagnosis seems to be 'caused sufficient problems in your life to come seek mental health diagnosis' in cases of ruthless, determined individuals who are achieving what they want in life (I am top in my business and don't really care about my string of failed relationships, because I'm awesome) why would they seek diagnosis? They're doing just fine.

Date: 2011-06-22 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flywingedmonkey.livejournal.com
18ish. Its a bit subjective though!

JmC
Crazy how?
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