Question for the day

[davywavy]

Elitism only has a bad reputation amongst those who do not have either the wherewithal and/or the ambition to join said elite.

Discuss.

Comments

[sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com]

Just because those that do something find no problem with it does not make it an exceptable thing.

[davywavy.livejournal.com]

But non- kiddie fiddlers rarely aspire to become one. I'm trying to explore the reasons people abhor elitism, which people do aspire to.

[sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com]

If people don't want to be kiddy-fiddlers, where do all the new ones come from?

Besides, pretty much everyone is elitist in their own way. Hell, just look at the Cam.

[davywavy.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure that's something people aspire to become; more descend, perhaps?

[sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com]

What ever the symantics, you get the idea. :)

[davywavy.livejournal.com]

And I don't think that you've missed the original point I was making so much as taken a detour via Glasgow to avoid it...

[sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com]

Elitism only has a bad reputation amongst those who do not have either the wherewithal and/or the ambition to join said elite.

My reply was that that may be true however the people who want to be elite arn't going to think it's a bad thing and the people who don't probably don't want to for a reason, and it's probably not going to be because they think it's a super cool thing.

Saying that ANYTHING is only viewd as negitive by those who want to have nothing to do with it is, in my opinion, a pretty obvious thing to say, and that is how I read the above statement, so not really much to discuss.

My first comment was, to me at least, pretty much the same thing as yours. However, if you want to discuss the nature of Elitism and get into another dance of the red death discussion with J. then I don't think the original statement has a lot of relevence, perhaps something along the lines of 'Elitism is part of the natural order of things and is infact a benfit, rather than a detrement to sociaty.' might be what I was supposed to read.

Sorry if I read it wrong, I'm not at all leet I'm affraid. :)

[davywavy.livejournal.com]

Okay, yes, I'll accept that. Or I should ahve removed the word 'ambition' from the initial phrase, as it is often those who aspire to the elite but simply don't have 'it' who'd most like to get rid of any elite. Tall poppy syndrome. Sound fair?

[sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com]

Yup.