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davywavyGosh, many things bubbling & fizzing in what I laughingly call my brain…
I just bothered to sit down & read the last week of nonsense on the Uk-General (for those of you who don’t know, it’s a forum for bitching & spite masquerading as a general news list hosted by a Gaming society I’m a member of), and some things struck me.
1) Whenever anyone says, “Let’s have some common sense!” or similar comment, what they’re actually saying is: “Everyone agree with me or you’re wrong!”
2) Those people arguing against the idea of the contents of the Livejournals being made more accessible to the general public are missing the point of the Internet – that is…it’s already in the public domain!
As an example, I recently posted up a short story (“Asasabulum”, scroll down if you haven’t read it, it’s on here somewhere) to my LJ. What this has done is ensure that no publisher will ever buy that story from me. Why? Because I’ve put it into the public domain. Anyone can surf right in a read it, and so I’ve negated any resale worth that tale may have had. Fortunately I’m comfortable enough that I don’t have to worry about selling the stuff I write and can write for a hobby, but you see my point, I hope.
In the same way, the reality of LJ (unless you go friends only) is that it’s in the public domain. People claiming that their LJ is ‘private space’ just for them and their friends are talking nonsense, both in terms of logistics (see the random button? That means that anyone can read your words – I pick up readers that way) and accessibility. I post here because I want as wide an audience as possible to read my stuff. If you don’t want a wide audience to read your stuff, why are you posting to a public access channel? I don’t understand? Why not just post to your friends, or set up your own list? Why use something that is so public and then try and hide behind mealy-mouthed justifications?
Frankly, if someone wants to say something, I’d respect them a lot more if they had the courage of their convictions just to acknowledge there may be consequences, rather than just squealing like a frightened pig when anyone suggests the possibility.
3) The primary defence of people trying to stop the Cam looking at their posts, when cut down to the bone, seems to be “So I can act like a petulant 12-year-old and you can’t stop me, ner-ne-ner-ne-ner-ner.” Well, that’s true, they can. But why would anyone want to use that as a defence?
Once again, humanity has left me feeling rather confused, cold, and lonely.
I just bothered to sit down & read the last week of nonsense on the Uk-General (for those of you who don’t know, it’s a forum for bitching & spite masquerading as a general news list hosted by a Gaming society I’m a member of), and some things struck me.
1) Whenever anyone says, “Let’s have some common sense!” or similar comment, what they’re actually saying is: “Everyone agree with me or you’re wrong!”
2) Those people arguing against the idea of the contents of the Livejournals being made more accessible to the general public are missing the point of the Internet – that is…it’s already in the public domain!
As an example, I recently posted up a short story (“Asasabulum”, scroll down if you haven’t read it, it’s on here somewhere) to my LJ. What this has done is ensure that no publisher will ever buy that story from me. Why? Because I’ve put it into the public domain. Anyone can surf right in a read it, and so I’ve negated any resale worth that tale may have had. Fortunately I’m comfortable enough that I don’t have to worry about selling the stuff I write and can write for a hobby, but you see my point, I hope.
In the same way, the reality of LJ (unless you go friends only) is that it’s in the public domain. People claiming that their LJ is ‘private space’ just for them and their friends are talking nonsense, both in terms of logistics (see the random button? That means that anyone can read your words – I pick up readers that way) and accessibility. I post here because I want as wide an audience as possible to read my stuff. If you don’t want a wide audience to read your stuff, why are you posting to a public access channel? I don’t understand? Why not just post to your friends, or set up your own list? Why use something that is so public and then try and hide behind mealy-mouthed justifications?
Frankly, if someone wants to say something, I’d respect them a lot more if they had the courage of their convictions just to acknowledge there may be consequences, rather than just squealing like a frightened pig when anyone suggests the possibility.
3) The primary defence of people trying to stop the Cam looking at their posts, when cut down to the bone, seems to be “So I can act like a petulant 12-year-old and you can’t stop me, ner-ne-ner-ne-ner-ner.” Well, that’s true, they can. But why would anyone want to use that as a defence?
Once again, humanity has left me feeling rather confused, cold, and lonely.
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Gnng...
Date: 2002-09-06 11:15 am (UTC)1 - No, this isn't true. Common sense is however rarely as common as it first seems. The whole thing has been hijacked by an overly PC witchhunt and the bruised ego of a man who is frankly a "Throbbing head-end" to quote my esteemed friend Mr Marment who is so better with that sort of turn of phrase than I am. If he'd just admit it's a personal thing we might get some progress rather than dragging everyone down to hell.
2 - The internet is not like normal media. Repeat as necessary. While LJ's are posted onto the 'internet' this does not make them public.
Let's use a metaphore.
There is a great big library - The Internet, and in it many millions of people mill around looking at various things (mostly pornography).
In some areas there are desks staffed by helpers who know where everything is in the library.
In as much as anything in the library can be called 'public' (You need a special library card to gain entry and this usually costs money) it is the books and articles these people can help you find.
If you ask them for "So-and-so's Livejournal" they'll give you a blank look.
Here and there in the library, hidden away where you can't JUST stumble on them are journals which aren't in any card catalogues. If you don't know specifically where to look you won't find them though each one has directions to a few others.
Passers by won't see them and some pages are in cipher.
LJ's aren't exactly public, neither are a lot of webpages. You need more definitions than 'public' and 'private' given the nature of the net. Old thinking simply doesn't apply.
Now... saying things to people's faces.
Love to, trouble is most of them we only meet at Cam games, where we can't. The only place to blow off steam and bitch amongst friends is the internet and livejournal is one safe facet of that. Take it away and there is nowhere for the pressure to bleed off.
Now... what happens when you increase pressure in a sealed container?
Consequences, sure, but it's fuck all, I'll repeat that for the hard of understanding...
F U C K A L L
To do with the Camarilla.
If Dave wants to put such stuff up on a webpage more power to him, so long as he puts things in context I have no beef with it and stand by pretty much everything I've ever said about anybody, including you.
Humanity has left you confused, cold and lonely because you don't think, behave or act like a human being to be brutally honest. You don't seem to understand human emotion as it applies to situations.
I don't mind people looking at my posts, if they ask me I can even tell them where to look, I do mind the comments being presented without context and amongst the colourful prose of less capable insulters with no basis for their animosity.